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Article #11117Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: rbwinn
Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2008 01:56
Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2008 01:56
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On Aug 5, 6:31�am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > rbwinn wrote: > > On Aug 4, 9:22 pm, hhyaps...@gmail.com wrote: > >> On Aug 5, 11:08 am, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > > >>> On Aug 4, 5:34 pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote: > >>>> On Mon, 4 Aug 2008 05:02:25 -0700 (PDT), in alt.atheism > >>>> rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in > >>>> <df36fbb3-4bc6-4217-93a7-eb8537d50...@s50g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>: > >>>>> On Aug 3, 8:56?pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > >>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>> On Aug 3, 4:29 pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote: > >>>>>>>> On Sun, 3 Aug 2008 15:24:56 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote > >>>>>>>> in alt.atheism: > >>>>>>>>> On Aug 3, 8:12?am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 2, 8:53 pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 00:08:55 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote > >>>>>>>>>>>> in alt.atheism: > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 1, 2:30?pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> ... > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Discuss it with John after the resurrection. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> No proof of this alleged "resurrection", is there? > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, actually there is. The apostles were witnesses of the > >>>>>>>>>>>>> resurrected Christ on two separate occasions. > >>>>>>>>>>>> No evidence backs up your claim. > >>>>>>>>>>> Well, I could send you a copy of the Bible if you want one. > >>>>>>>>>> I have a Bible. ?There's no evidence in there to back up your claim. > >>>>>>>>> John 20:19 Then the same day at evening, being the first day of the > >>>>>>>>> week, when the doors were shut where the disciples were assembled for > >>>>>>>>> fear of the Jews, came Jesus and stood in the midst, and saith unto > >>>>>>>>> them, Peace be unto you. > >>>>>>>>> John 21:9 As soon then as they were come to land, they saw a fire of > >>>>>>>>> coals there, and fish laid thereon, and bread. > >>>>>>>>> 10 Jesus saith unto them, Bring of the fish which ye have now > >>>>>>>>> caught. > >>>>>>>>> 11 Simon Peter went up, and drew the net to land full of great > >>>>>>>>> fishes, an hundred and fifty and three: and for all there were so > >>>>>>>>> many, yet was not the net broken. > >>>>>>>>> 12Jesus saith unto them Come and dine, And none of the disciples durst > >>>>>>>>> ask him , Who art thou? knowing that it was the Lord. > >>>>>>>>> 13 Jesus then cometh , and taketh bread, and giveth them, and fish > >>>>>>>>> likewise. > >>>>>>>>> 14 This is now the third time that Jesus shewed himself to his > >>>>>>>>> disciples, after that he was risen from the dead. > >>>>>>>> The Bible still is not evidence. I asked for evidence.- Hide quoted text - > >>>>>>> The Bible is accepted as evidence in court. ? > >>>>>> For what kinds of cases? > >>>>> For any kind of case. A lawyer can request that a Bible be entered as > >>>>> evidence in any court case. Clarence Darrow had the Bible entered as > >>>>> evidence in the famous "monkey trial". > >>>> When did you last check the rules of evidence?- Hide quoted text - > >>>> - Show quoted text - > >>> The last time I was in court. I attempted to introduce the > >>> Constitution of the United States as evidence. > >>> Robert B. Winn > >> Yes, the constitution was written in modern time and is not a story. > >> The bible was written more than 2000 years ago and was a collection of > >> tales meant to con the young into sleep. > >> You do not know the significance of a constitution and a fictional > >> story book.- Hide quoted text - > > >> - Show quoted text - > > > I said I attempted to enter the Constitution as evidence. �Judges in > > America today do not allow the Constitution in their police state > > courts. > > Just like they do not allow independent voters to run for public office, > right? �I demolished that claim. �Want me to demolish this one? �All I > need to do is to find ONE case wherein the Constitution was used as > evidence. > > Want me to do that? > You did not demolish anything. Independent voters are prevented from running for office every way party politicians can think of to prevent them from running. That is just a fact. As for the other matter, you would have to find a case where a police state judge allowed a defendant to refer to the Constitution or Constitutional rights. Robert B. Winn
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