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Re: Does God need to prove He exists?

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From: rbwinn
Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2008 01:56
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On Aug 5, 6:31�am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> rbwinn wrote:
> > On Aug 4, 9:22 pm, hhyaps...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> On Aug 5, 11:08 am, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
>
> >>> On Aug 4, 5:34 pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> >>>> On Mon, 4 Aug 2008 05:02:25 -0700 (PDT), in alt.atheism
> >>>> rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in
> >>>> <df36fbb3-4bc6-4217-93a7-eb8537d50...@s50g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>:
> >>>>> On Aug 3, 8:56?pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Aug 3, 4:29 pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> On Sun, 3 Aug 2008 15:24:56 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote
> >>>>>>>> in alt.atheism:
> >>>>>>>>> On Aug 3, 8:12?am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 2, 8:53 pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 00:08:55 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote
> >>>>>>>>>>>> in alt.atheism:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 1, 2:30?pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> ...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Discuss it with John after the resurrection.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> No proof of this alleged "resurrection", is there?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, actually there is. The apostles were witnesses of the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> resurrected Christ on two separate occasions.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> No evidence backs up your claim.
> >>>>>>>>>>> Well, I could send you a copy of the Bible if you want one.
> >>>>>>>>>> I have a Bible. ?There's no evidence in there to back up your claim.
> >>>>>>>>> John 20:19 Then the same day at evening, being the first day of the
> >>>>>>>>> week, when the doors were shut where the disciples were assembled for
> >>>>>>>>> fear of the Jews, came Jesus and stood in the midst, and saith unto
> >>>>>>>>> them, Peace be unto you.
> >>>>>>>>> John 21:9 As soon then as they were come to land, they saw a fire of
> >>>>>>>>> coals there, and fish laid thereon, and bread.
> >>>>>>>>> 10 Jesus saith unto them, Bring of the fish which ye have now
> >>>>>>>>> caught.
> >>>>>>>>> 11 Simon Peter went up, and drew the net to land full of great
> >>>>>>>>> fishes, an hundred and fifty and three: and for all there were so
> >>>>>>>>> many, yet was not the net broken.
> >>>>>>>>> 12Jesus saith unto them Come and dine, And none of the disciples durst
> >>>>>>>>> ask him , Who art thou? knowing that it was the Lord.
> >>>>>>>>> 13 Jesus then cometh , and taketh bread, and giveth them, and fish
> >>>>>>>>> likewise.
> >>>>>>>>> 14 This is now the third time that Jesus shewed himself to his
> >>>>>>>>> disciples, after that he was risen from the dead.
> >>>>>>>> The Bible still is not evidence. I asked for evidence.- Hide quoted text -
> >>>>>>> The Bible is accepted as evidence in court. ?
> >>>>>> For what kinds of cases?
> >>>>> For any kind of case. A lawyer can request that a Bible be entered as
> >>>>> evidence in any court case. Clarence Darrow had the Bible entered as
> >>>>> evidence in the famous "monkey trial".
> >>>> When did you last check the rules of evidence?- Hide quoted text -
> >>>> - Show quoted text -
> >>> The last time I was in court. I attempted to introduce the
> >>> Constitution of the United States as evidence.
> >>> Robert B. Winn
> >> Yes, the constitution was written in modern time and is not a story.
> >> The bible was written more than 2000 years ago and was a collection of
> >> tales meant to con the young into sleep.
> >> You do not know the significance of a constitution and a fictional
> >> story book.- Hide quoted text -
>
> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > I said I attempted to enter the Constitution as evidence. �Judges in
> > America today do not allow the Constitution in their police state
> > courts.
>
> Just like they do not allow independent voters to run for public office,
> right? �I demolished that claim. �Want me to demolish this one? �All I
> need to do is to find ONE case wherein the Constitution was used as
> evidence.
>
> Want me to do that?
>
You did not demolish anything.  Independent voters are prevented from
running for office every way party politicians can think of to prevent
them from running.
That is just a fact.
As for the other matter, you would have to find a case where a police
state judge allowed a defendant to refer to the Constitution or
Constitutional rights.
Robert B. Winn
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From: rbwinn <rbwinn3@juno.com>
Newsgroups: sci.physics,cam.misc,alt.sci.physics,alt.atheism
Subject: Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 18:56:10 -0700 (PDT)
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