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Re: Does God need to prove He exists?

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From: rbwinn
Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2008 01:57
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On Aug 5, 6:42�am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> rbwinn wrote:
> > On Aug 4, 9:36 pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)"
> > <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> >> On Aug 4, 9:40 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
>
> >>> On Aug 3, 8:38 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>> On Aug 3, 4:18 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Aug 3, 8:12 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On Aug 2, 8:53 pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 00:08:55 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote
> >>>>>>>>>> in alt.atheism:
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 1, 2:30?pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> ...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Discuss it with John after the resurrection.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> No proof of this alleged "resurrection", is there?
> >>>>>>>>>>> Well, actually there is. The apostles were witnesses of the
> >>>>>>>>>>> resurrected Christ on two separate occasions.
> >>>>>>>>>> No evidence backs up your claim.
> >>>>>>>>> Well, I could send you a copy of the Bible if you want one.
> >>>>>>>> I have a Bible. There's no evidence in there to back up your claim.
> >>>>>>> John 20:19 Then the same day at evening, being the first day of the
> >>>>>>> week, when the doors were shut where the disciples were assembled for
> >>>>>>> fear of the Jews, came Jesus and stood in the midst, and saith unto
> >>>>>>> them, Peace be unto you.
> >>>>>>> John 21:9 As soon then as they were come to land, they saw a fire of
> >>>>>>> coals there, and fish laid thereon, and bread.
> >>>>>>> 10 Jesus saith unto them, Bring of the fish which ye have now
> >>>>>>> caught.
> >>>>>>> 11 Simon Peter went up, and drew the net to land full of great
> >>>>>>> fishes, an hundred and fifty and three: and for all there were so
> >>>>>>> many, yet was not the net broken.
> >>>>>>> 12Jesus saith unto them Come and dine, And none of the disciples durst
> >>>>>>> ask him , Who art thou? knowing that it was the Lord.
> >>>>>>> 13 Jesus then cometh , and taketh bread, and giveth them, and fish
> >>>>>>> likewise.
> >>>>>>> 14 This is now the third time that Jesus shewed himself to his
> >>>>>>> disciples, after that he was risen from the dead.
> >>>>>> No, that's not evidence. That's a claim.
> >>>>> Well, you have to understand something about rules of evidence. If
> >>>>> something exists, it can be entered into evidence. The Bible
> >>>>> exists.
> >>>> This post exists. This post says that unicorns exist. Therefore, this
> >>>> post can be entered into evidence and unicorns must exist. Right?
> >>>> Or is "unicorns exist" just a claim?
> >>> No, it is evidence that you are not telling the truth.
> >>>>> So what is your position, that the Bible does not exist, therefore it
> >>>>> cannot be entered into evidence?
> >>>>> This is the same tactic you have used from the beginning concerning
> >>>>> Hezekiah's tunnel.
> >>>> Um, no. And you cannot prove that any atheist has ever said anything
> >>>> about Hezekiah's tunnel not existing, so you might as well give up that
> >>>> tripe.
> >>> One atheist a few years back said that Hezekiah's tunnel was a hoax
> >>> perpetrated by Jerusalem tour guides.
> >>> Robert B. Winn
> >> And none in this discussion and no citation to back up this claim.
> >> And yet you ascribe all atheists with the property of denying tunnel
> >> exists.
> >> Why is that? Could it be that you're another Liar-for-jesus?
>
> >> Al- Hide quoted text -
>
> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > No, it is just that knowing the way atheists are,
>
> You have shown time and again that you have NO knowledge of the way
> atheists really are.
>
> > if an atheist tells
> > me that he believes the tunnel exists, I do not believe that atheist
> > is really conceding its existence, but will continue to say that the
> > Bible is nothing but mythology even after being shown that it is not.
>
> Why? �Because the tunnel exists?
>
The tunnel exists.  It is right where the Bible said a tunnel was dug
as a conduit for water.
Robert B. Winn
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From: rbwinn <rbwinn3@juno.com>
Newsgroups: sci.physics,cam.misc,alt.sci.physics,alt.atheism
Subject: Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
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