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rbwinn wrote:
> On Aug 3, 7:47�am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>> rbwinn wrote:
>>> On Aug 2, 7:18 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>> On Aug 2, 1:17 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>> On Aug 1, 11:56 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Aug 1, 8:29 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 31, 8:55 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 31, 2:47 pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:e614fbd1-1d14-42db-856a-84936af30751@s50g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OnJul30, 10:32 pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OnJul31, 2:57 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OnJul30, 6:07 pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 30Jul2008 17:57:19 -0700 (PDT), in alt.atheism
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <4937d184-9c40-4146-a3bb-b72b0333d...@z66g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OnJul30, 3:43?pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue,29Jul2008 21:46:16 -0700 (PDT), in alt.atheism
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <5756c0f4-924c-42b6-b121-8d1294e14...@m44g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OnJul22, 4:36?am, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 21Jul2008 20:27:01 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <rbwi...@juno.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote in alt.atheism:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OnJul21, 6:51?pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 21Jul2008 17:58:47 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <rbwi...@juno.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote in alt.atheism:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OnJul21, 5:15?pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 21Jul2008 06:27:20 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <rbwi...@juno.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote in alt.atheism:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OnJul20, 4:53?pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 20Jul2008 14:57:06 -0700, DanielSan
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <daniel...@speakeasy.net>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote in alt.atheism:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OnJul20, 10:18 am, DanielSan
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, Jesus didn't say it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Paul said it. ?He was one of the twelve apostles.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, Jesus didn't say it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And, as we all know, Paul was not one of the Twelve.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, if you doubt that Paul was one of the twelve, why
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't you wait
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> until after you are resurrected and ask Paul if he was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> twelve?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You are really ignorant about the Bible. No wonder you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> insist on making
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a fool of yourself.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Clue. Even Paul tells us he wasn't one of the Twelve.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If there were aGod, He would strike you down for being
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> such a bad
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The book of Acts says Paul was ordained an apostle, Paul
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> says he is an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> apostle. ?Paul was an apostle, regardless of how many
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> atheists of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> today say he was not.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Once again, you choose to lie rather than admit your error.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nowhere in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the entire Bibledoesit say that Paul was one of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Twelve. That was a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> claim you made up that was not true.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Keep lying. Prove to us how much of a fake you are.- Hide
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Acts 14:14 ?Which when the apostles, Barnabas and Paul, heard
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of, they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rent their clothes, and ran in among the people crying out.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, as you can see, apostledoesnot mean 'one of the Twelve'.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please, learn the myths you are trying to sell us. Yourgod
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> embarrassed by your ignorance if he existed.- Hide quoted
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, yes itdoesmean ?one of the Twelve.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then you clearly have no idea what you are talking about. Go waste
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time reading the Gospels, Acts and letters to find out that _no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one_
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thought that Paul was one of the Twelve.- Hide quoted text -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, Paul thought he was. I don't think he would have gone around
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lying about it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You are lying about what Paul said. He never claimed to be one of the
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He said he was an apostle. He would not have said that if he had not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been ordained.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am an apostle.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Al- Hide quoted text -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So who ordained you an apostle?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You did.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You said that people who say they are an apostle are an ordained apostle,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and that they wouldn't say they were an apostle unless they were an apostle.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's right up there, in the text.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve O
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Paul was ordained an apostle. Al was not.
>>>>>>>>>>>> I ordain Al as an apostle.
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> You would have to be an apostle to ordain an apostle.
>>>>>>>>>> I've already been ordained an apostle.
>>>>>>>>> So who ordained you an apostle?
>>>>>>>> God.
>>>>>>> Why would God ordain you an apostle?
>>>>>> God works in mysterious ways.
>>>>>>> The original twelve apostles
>>>>>>> were ordained by Jesus Christ.
>>>>>> And none of them were Paul.
>>>>>>> All apostles since that time have been
>>>>>>> ordained by apostles.
>>>>>> So?
>>>>>>> It is contrary to the order of heaven for God
>>>>>>> to do anything for men that they can do for themselves.
>>>>>> You presume to speak for God?
>>>>> I absolutely do.
>>>> I'll make sure that God knows that you took it upon yourself to speak
>>>> for Him.
>>> Hebrews 5:1 �For every high priest taken from among men is ordained
>>> for men in things pertaining to God, that he may offer both gifts and
>>> sacrifices for sins:
>>> 2 �Who can have compassion on the ignorant, and on them that are out
>>> of the way; for that he himself also is compassed with infirmity.
>>> 3 And by reason hereof he ought, as for the people, so also for
>>> himself, to offer for sins.
>>> 4 �And no man taketh this honor unto himself, but he that is called of
>>> God, as was Aaron.
>> Yeah, you might want to read your Bible again. �Did God qualify you to
>> speak for Him as he did for Moses in Exodus 3 and 4, Samuel in 1 Samuel
>> 3, or Isaiah, Jeremiah, and Ezekiel in Isaiah 6, Jeremiah 1, and Ezekiel
>> 2, respectively?
>>
>> Did He?
> Yes.

God told me to tell you to stop lying.  He told me that you're breaking 
a commandment and each time you do so, you further cement your place in 
hell.

He told me to think about your actions and how to proceed in the future.


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