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Article #11344Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: rbwinn
Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2008 21:57
Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2008 21:57
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On Aug 3, 8:09�am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > rbwinn wrote: > > On Aug 2, 7:28 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > >> rbwinn wrote: > >>> On Aug 2, 4:22 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > >>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>> On Aug 2, 9:51 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > >>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>> On Aug 1, 7:33 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > >>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>>>> On Aug 1, 6:48 am, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 1 Aug 2008 04:48:10 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote > >>>>>>>>>> in alt.atheism: > >>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 31, 9:07?pm, "Smiler" <Smi...@Joe.King.com> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote in message > >>>>>>>>>>>>news:6feg2oFb88s6U1@mid.individual.net... > >>>>>>>>>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message > >>>>>>>>>>>>>news:03071fc3-e432-49b6-a4a5-c22bd4a879ab@56g2000hsm.googlegroups.com... > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 30, 9:45?pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)" > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 30, 10:47 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 22, 1:19 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 21, 12:11 am, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 20, 9:59 am, "Alex W." <ing...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>news:85ce5d7c-67c2-4090-8fd1-14d9b48f203d@34g2000hsh.googlegroups.com... > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There are only two commandments in the Law of Christ: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Love the Lord thy God, Love thy neighbor as thyself. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ======== > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry, but I draw the line at giving my neighbour hand jobs. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (as he will no doubt be relieved to hear). > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone who engages in homosexuality does not love the other > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> person, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> since he is contributing to that person's damnation. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No evidence backs up this silly claim. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why don't you take it up with Einstein when he returns, that idea > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nothing to do with me.- Hide quoted text - > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text - > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why would Einstein be interested in homosexuality? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why would Jesus?- Hide quoted text - > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All homosexuals will be judged by Jesus, the same as with sinners of > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any kind. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why don't we just wait for him before judging them then? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I happen to think that if anyone needs judging it is the liars and > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hypocrites. ?But you don't see me campaigning to remove their human > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rights. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, yes, I do. ? Like other atheists you campaign for abortion, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> which removes the right to live of the people who are killed. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Stop being such an idiot. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Why do you equate atheism with pro-abortionism? > >>>>>>>>>>>>> They are not the same thing. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> You have already been corrected in your mistaken belief that all atheists > >>>>>>>>>>>>> are pro-abortion, so why do you insist on lying? > >>>>>>>>>>>> We may be (and I am) pro-choice, but none, AFAIK, are pro-abortion. > >>>>>>>>>>> Pro-choice today is used interchangably with pro-abortion. > >>>>>>>>>> Only by liars, particularly the liars who call themselves pro-life, but > >>>>>>>>>> prove by their politics that they love killing people. > >>>>>>>>>>> You are > >>>>>>>>>>> not pro-choice because you are opposed to the choices that would be > >>>>>>>>>>> made by any children killed by abortion. > >>>>>>>>>> Children are not killed by abortion.- Hide quoted text - > >>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text - > >>>>>>>>> Well, here we are at another word besides gay that atheists are trying > >>>>>>>>> to change the meaning of. Fortunately for Christian people, we have > >>>>>>>>> the Bible. > >>>>>>>>> Luke 2:4 And Joseph also went up from Galilee, out of the city of > >>>>>>>>> Nazareth, into Judea, unto the city of David, which is called > >>>>>>>>> Bethlehem; (because he was of the house and lineage of David:) > >>>>>>>>> 5 To be taxed with Mary his espoused wife, being great with child. > >>>>>>>>> So do you really think you are going to be able to change the meaning? > >>>>>>>> Yes. We're not going to allow you to change the meaning of the word > >>>>>>>> "child" to mean anything from fertilization on. > >>>>>>> Well, take a good look at verse five. That was not written by me. It > >>>>>>> was written by a physician . > >>>>>> Verse 5....in which translation? > >>>>>> Hint: Luke was not written in English. > >>>>> It means the same in Greek as it does in English. > >>>> Yes. It doesn't say anything about "child". It says " (egkuos)". > >>>> Egkuos means pregnant. > >>> So you are saying that Luke as a physician was so ignorant that he > >>> could not tell that a pregnant woman was with child? > >> Luke didn't write the Gospel of Luke, numbnuts. > > >> Secondly, "with child" is not a medical term. It is a colloquialism. > >> Are you seriously suggesting that, since some people call being pregnant > >> being "with child", that that means that there is a child in the womb? > > >> I was at the store today and I heard a wife call her husband a "honey > >> bunny". Does that mean that husband is lapine in nature and is covered > >> in the thick processed pollen of flowers? > > > So you say you were convinced that a pregnant woman does not have a > > child in her womb because a woman at the store called her husband > > honey bunny. � > > Right. �We use a lot of nonstandard words for things. > > Point being, there is no actual child in the womb and the husband is not > a rabbit. > > > What you probably will want to do is to find someone who > > reads a lot of Harry Potter books and tell that person about your > > experience. �Since I read the Bible, it just does not have the same > > effect on me. > > I do talk about Harry Potter... AS FICTION. > > -- > **************************************************** > * � � � � �DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226 � � � � �* > *--------------------------------------------------* > * Can God create a Thai dish so spicy that even He * > * can't eat it? � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � �* > ****************************************************- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Well, I talk about your idea that a pregnant woman does not have a child in her womb AS FICTION. Robert B. Winn
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