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On Aug 2, 7:23�pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> rbwinn wrote:
> > On Aug 2, 1:24 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >> rbwinn wrote:
> >>> On Aug 1, 11:58 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>> On Aug 1, 8:36 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Jul 31, 9:20 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On Jul 31, 6:04 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> OnJul31, 5:36 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> OnJul30, 9:49 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OnJul30, 6:04 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OnJul30, 3:40 pm, Stan-O <bndsna...@aol.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 30Jul2008 10:42:53 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Under World Communism one of the pre-requisites for being a dictator
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was being an atheist.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Because Karl Marx said that religion was the opiate of the people.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Religious people were not allowed to be Communist dictators.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...and to think that Marx himself was Jewish...- Hide quoted text -
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Marx said that he was an atheist. How is it that now that Communism
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has failed, all of these Communist icons are suddenly religious men?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Because you read filtered propaganda instead of doing any research
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> into their backgrounds.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, I knew that Karl Marx was born to a Jewish family and became an
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> atheist. I knew that Josef Stalin was born into a Russian Orthodox
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> family and became an atheist. Those are just facts. So how do
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> atheists of today hope to change the facts by claiming that these two
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> individuals were religious men?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, you believe Marx and Stalin when they claimed to be atheists?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I absolutely do. They sound just like atheists of today.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> You mean, you don't think they were lying for political gain?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, they were lying for political gain
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Therefore, it's possible they weren't atheists.
> >>>>>>>>>>> Well, no, it is not possible. There were no Communist dictators who
> >>>>>>>>>>> were not atheists.
> >>>>>>>>>> ...that you will admit to existing, you mean.
> >>>>>>>>> Well, tell me one and we will see if I admit it.
> >>>>>>>> Already done with Muntzer.
> >>>>>>> Already done? So in what nation was he head of state?
> >>>>>> First, define "nation".
> >>>>> Just go to Merriam-Webster dictionary online. Any words you do not
> >>>>> understand, you can look up in a dictionary. Perhaps you did not know
> >>>>> about dictionaries.
> >>>> I know the definition of nation, moron. I want to know if YOU know the
> >>>> definition.
> >>> No, you don't.
> >> How do you know?
>
> >>> You want to change the subject because there have not
> >>> been any Communist dictators who were Christian.
> >> Muntzer was a Communist dictator who was a Christian. Does one need to
> >> be "head of state" to be a dictator?
>
> > As far as I can tell, Muntzer was just a religious dissident who had a
> > contention with Martin Luther.
>
> Then you don't know anything about Muntzer. �Read up on the dissolution
> of the Town Council in Muehlhausen in 1524.
>
> --
Any local leader of that time who was religious would probably be
classified as a dictator by atheists of today.   The subject was
Communist dictators.  We were talking about World Communism, which did
not happen until Karl Marx wrote the Communist Manifesto and Das
Kapital.  World Communism was an attempt to establish a world
government under the control of Communist powers.  All Communist
dictators under World Communism were atheists.
Robert B. Winn