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rbwinn wrote:
> On Aug 2, 7:18�pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>> rbwinn wrote:
>>> On Aug 2, 1:17 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>> On Aug 1, 11:56 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>> On Aug 1, 8:29 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Jul 31, 8:55 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 31, 2:47 pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>> news:e614fbd1-1d14-42db-856a-84936af30751@s50g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>>>>>>>>> OnJul30, 10:32 pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)"
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OnJul31, 2:57 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OnJul30, 6:07 pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 30Jul2008 17:57:19 -0700 (PDT), in alt.atheism
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <4937d184-9c40-4146-a3bb-b72b0333d...@z66g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OnJul30, 3:43?pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue,29Jul2008 21:46:16 -0700 (PDT), in alt.atheism
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <5756c0f4-924c-42b6-b121-8d1294e14...@m44g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OnJul22, 4:36?am, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 21Jul2008 20:27:01 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <rbwi...@juno.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote in alt.atheism:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OnJul21, 6:51?pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 21Jul2008 17:58:47 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <rbwi...@juno.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote in alt.atheism:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OnJul21, 5:15?pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 21Jul2008 06:27:20 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <rbwi...@juno.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote in alt.atheism:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OnJul20, 4:53?pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 20Jul2008 14:57:06 -0700, DanielSan
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <daniel...@speakeasy.net>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote in alt.atheism:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OnJul20, 10:18 am, DanielSan
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, Jesus didn't say it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Paul said it. ?He was one of the twelve apostles.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, Jesus didn't say it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And, as we all know, Paul was not one of the Twelve.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, if you doubt that Paul was one of the twelve, why
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't you wait
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> until after you are resurrected and ask Paul if he was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> twelve?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You are really ignorant about the Bible. No wonder you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> insist on making
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a fool of yourself.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Clue. Even Paul tells us he wasn't one of the Twelve.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If there were aGod, He would strike you down for being
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> such a bad
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> example.- Hide quoted text -
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The book of Acts says Paul was ordained an apostle, Paul
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> says he is an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> apostle. ?Paul was an apostle, regardless of how many
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> atheists of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> today say he was not.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Once again, you choose to lie rather than admit your error.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nowhere in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the entire Bibledoesit say that Paul was one of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Twelve. That was a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> claim you made up that was not true.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Keep lying. Prove to us how much of a fake you are.- Hide
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Acts 14:14 ?Which when the apostles, Barnabas and Paul, heard
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of, they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rent their clothes, and ran in among the people crying out.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, as you can see, apostledoesnot mean 'one of the Twelve'.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please, learn the myths you are trying to sell us. Yourgod
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> embarrassed by your ignorance if he existed.- Hide quoted
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, yes itdoesmean ?one of the Twelve.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then you clearly have no idea what you are talking about. Go waste
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time reading the Gospels, Acts and letters to find out that _no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one_
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, Paul thought he was. I don't think he would have gone around
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lying about it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You are lying about what Paul said. He never claimed to be one of the
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He said he was an apostle. He would not have said that if he had not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been ordained.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am an apostle.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Al- Hide quoted text -
>>>>>>>>>>>>> So who ordained you an apostle?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
>>>>>>>>>>>> You did.
>>>>>>>>>>>> You said that people who say they are an apostle are an ordained apostle,
>>>>>>>>>>>> and that they wouldn't say they were an apostle unless they were an apostle.
>>>>>>>>>>>> It's right up there, in the text.
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve O
>>>>>>>>>>> Paul was ordained an apostle. Al was not.
>>>>>>>>>> I ordain Al as an apostle.
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> You would have to be an apostle to ordain an apostle.
>>>>>>>> I've already been ordained an apostle.
>>>>>>> So who ordained you an apostle?
>>>>>> God.
>>>>> Why would God ordain you an apostle?
>>>> God works in mysterious ways.
>>>>> The original twelve apostles
>>>>> were ordained by Jesus Christ.
>>>> And none of them were Paul.
>>>>> All apostles since that time have been
>>>>> ordained by apostles.
>>>> So?
>>>>> It is contrary to the order of heaven for God
>>>>> to do anything for men that they can do for themselves.
>>>> You presume to speak for God?
>>> I absolutely do.
>> I'll make sure that God knows that you took it upon yourself to speak
>> for Him.
>>
> 
> Hebrews 5:1  For every high priest taken from among men is ordained
> for men in things pertaining to God, that he may offer both gifts and
> sacrifices for sins:
> 2  Who can have compassion on the ignorant, and on them that are out
> of the way; for that he himself also is compassed with infirmity.
> 3 And by reason hereof he ought, as for the people, so also for
> himself, to offer for sins.
> 4  And no man taketh this honor unto himself, but he that is called of
> God, as was Aaron.

Yeah, you might want to read your Bible again.  Did God qualify you to 
speak for Him as he did for Moses in Exodus 3 and 4, Samuel in 1 Samuel 
3, or Isaiah, Jeremiah, and Ezekiel in Isaiah 6, Jeremiah 1, and Ezekiel 
2, respectively?

Did He?

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