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rbwinn wrote:
> On Aug 2, 1:17�pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>> rbwinn wrote:
>>> On Aug 1, 11:56 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>> On Aug 1, 8:29 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>> On Jul 31, 8:55 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Jul 31, 2:47 pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> news:e614fbd1-1d14-42db-856a-84936af30751@s50g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>>>>>>> OnJul30, 10:32 pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)"
>>>>>>>>>>> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> OnJul31, 2:57 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> OnJul30, 6:07 pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 30Jul2008 17:57:19 -0700 (PDT), in alt.atheism
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <4937d184-9c40-4146-a3bb-b72b0333d...@z66g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OnJul30, 3:43?pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue,29Jul2008 21:46:16 -0700 (PDT), in alt.atheism
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <5756c0f4-924c-42b6-b121-8d1294e14...@m44g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OnJul22, 4:36?am, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 21Jul2008 20:27:01 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <rbwi...@juno.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote in alt.atheism:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OnJul21, 6:51?pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 21Jul2008 17:58:47 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <rbwi...@juno.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote in alt.atheism:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OnJul21, 5:15?pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 21Jul2008 06:27:20 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <rbwi...@juno.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote in alt.atheism:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OnJul20, 4:53?pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 20Jul2008 14:57:06 -0700, DanielSan
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <daniel...@speakeasy.net>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote in alt.atheism:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OnJul20, 10:18 am, DanielSan
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, Jesus didn't say it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Paul said it. ?He was one of the twelve apostles.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, Jesus didn't say it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And, as we all know, Paul was not one of the Twelve.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, if you doubt that Paul was one of the twelve, why
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't you wait
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> until after you are resurrected and ask Paul if he was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> twelve?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You are really ignorant about the Bible. No wonder you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> insist on making
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a fool of yourself.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Clue. Even Paul tells us he wasn't one of the Twelve.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If there were aGod, He would strike you down for being
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> such a bad
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The book of Acts says Paul was ordained an apostle, Paul
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> says he is an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> apostle. ?Paul was an apostle, regardless of how many
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> atheists of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> today say he was not.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Once again, you choose to lie rather than admit your error.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nowhere in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the entire Bibledoesit say that Paul was one of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Twelve. That was a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> claim you made up that was not true.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Keep lying. Prove to us how much of a fake you are.- Hide
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Acts 14:14 ?Which when the apostles, Barnabas and Paul, heard
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of, they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rent their clothes, and ran in among the people crying out.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, as you can see, apostledoesnot mean 'one of the Twelve'.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please, learn the myths you are trying to sell us. Yourgod
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> embarrassed by your ignorance if he existed.- Hide quoted
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, yes itdoesmean ?one of the Twelve.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then you clearly have no idea what you are talking about. Go waste
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time reading the Gospels, Acts and letters to find out that _no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one_
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, Paul thought he was. I don't think he would have gone around
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lying about it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You are lying about what Paul said. He never claimed to be one of the
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>>>>>>>>>>>>> He said he was an apostle. He would not have said that if he had not
>>>>>>>>>>>>> been ordained.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
>>>>>>>>>>>> I am an apostle.
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>>>>>>>>>>> So who ordained you an apostle?
>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
>>>>>>>>>> You did.
>>>>>>>>>> You said that people who say they are an apostle are an ordained apostle,
>>>>>>>>>> and that they wouldn't say they were an apostle unless they were an apostle.
>>>>>>>>>> It's right up there, in the text.
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> Steve O
>>>>>>>>> Paul was ordained an apostle. Al was not.
>>>>>>>> I ordain Al as an apostle.
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> You would have to be an apostle to ordain an apostle.
>>>>>> I've already been ordained an apostle.
>>>>> So who ordained you an apostle?
>>>> God.
>>> Why would God ordain you an apostle? �
>> God works in mysterious ways.
>>
>>> The original twelve apostles
>>> were ordained by Jesus Christ.
>> And none of them were Paul.
>>
>>> �All apostles since that time have been
>>> ordained by apostles. �
>> So?
>>
>>> It is contrary to the order of heaven for God
>>> to do anything for men that they can do for themselves.
>> You presume to speak for God?
>>
> I absolutely do.

I'll make sure that God knows that you took it upon yourself to speak 
for Him.


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