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Article #11446Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: DanielSan
Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2008 02:23
Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2008 02:23
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rbwinn wrote: > On Aug 2, 1:24�pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: >> rbwinn wrote: >>> On Aug 1, 11:58 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: >>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>> On Aug 1, 8:36 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: >>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>> On Jul 31, 9:20 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: >>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>> On Jul 31, 6:04 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> OnJul31, 5:36 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> OnJul30, 9:49 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OnJul30, 6:04 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OnJul30, 3:40 pm, Stan-O <bndsna...@aol.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 30Jul2008 10:42:53 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Under World Communism one of the pre-requisites for being a dictator >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was being an atheist. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Because Karl Marx said that religion was the opiate of the people. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Religious people were not allowed to be Communist dictators. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...and to think that Marx himself was Jewish...- Hide quoted text - >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text - >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Marx said that he was an atheist. How is it that now that Communism >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has failed, all of these Communist icons are suddenly religious men? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Because you read filtered propaganda instead of doing any research >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> into their backgrounds. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, I knew that Karl Marx was born to a Jewish family and became an >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> atheist. I knew that Josef Stalin was born into a Russian Orthodox >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> family and became an atheist. Those are just facts. So how do >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> atheists of today hope to change the facts by claiming that these two >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> individuals were religious men? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, you believe Marx and Stalin when they claimed to be atheists? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I absolutely do. They sound just like atheists of today. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> You mean, you don't think they were lying for political gain? >>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, they were lying for political gain >>>>>>>>>>>> Therefore, it's possible they weren't atheists. >>>>>>>>>>> Well, no, it is not possible. There were no Communist dictators who >>>>>>>>>>> were not atheists. >>>>>>>>>> ...that you will admit to existing, you mean. >>>>>>>>> Well, tell me one and we will see if I admit it. >>>>>>>> Already done with Muntzer. >>>>>>> Already done? So in what nation was he head of state? >>>>>> First, define "nation". >>>>> Just go to Merriam-Webster dictionary online. Any words you do not >>>>> understand, you can look up in a dictionary. Perhaps you did not know >>>>> about dictionaries. >>>> I know the definition of nation, moron. I want to know if YOU know the >>>> definition. >>> No, you don't. � >> How do you know? >> >>> You want to change the subject because there have not >>> been any Communist dictators who were Christian. >> Muntzer was a Communist dictator who was a Christian. �Does one need to >> be "head of state" to be a dictator? > > As far as I can tell, Muntzer was just a religious dissident who had a > contention with Martin Luther. Then you don't know anything about Muntzer. Read up on the dissolution of the Town Council in Muehlhausen in 1524. -- **************************************************** * DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226 * *--------------------------------------------------* * Can God create a Thai dish so spicy that even He * * can't eat it? * ****************************************************
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