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Re: Does God need to prove He exists?

#11512
From: Linda Fox
Date: Sat, 02 Aug 2008 13:09
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On Fri, 1 Aug 2008 19:32:34 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwinn3@juno.com>
wrote:

>On Aug 1, 6:48?am, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
>> On Fri, 1 Aug 2008 04:48:10 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote
>> in alt.atheism:
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>> >On Jul 31, 9:07?pm, "Smiler" <Smi...@Joe.King.com> wrote:
>> >> "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote in message
>>
>> >>news:6feg2oFb88s6U1@mid.individual.net...
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>> >> > "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
>> >> >news:03071fc3-e432-49b6-a4a5-c22bd4a879ab@56g2000hsm.googlegroups.com...
>> >> >> On Jul 30, 9:45?pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)"
>> >> >> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>> >> >>> On Jul 30, 10:47 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
>>
>> >> >>> > On Jul 22, 1:19 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
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>> >> >>> > > rbwinn wrote:
>> >> >>> > > > On Jul 21, 12:11 am, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
>> >> >>> > > >> rbwinn wrote:
>> >> >>> > > >>> On Jul 20, 9:59 am, "Alex W." <ing...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>> >> >>> > > >>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
>> >> >>> > > >>>>news:85ce5d7c-67c2-4090-8fd1-14d9b48f203d@34g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
>> >> >>> > > >>>> There are only two commandments in the Law of Christ:
>> >> >>> > > >>>> Love the Lord thy God, Love thy neighbor as thyself.
>> >> >>> > > >>>> ========
>> >> >>> > > >>>> Sorry, but I draw the line at giving my neighbour hand jobs.
>> >> >>> > > >>>> (as he will no doubt be relieved to hear).
>> >> >>> > > >>> Anyone who engages in homosexuality does not love the other
>> >> >>> > > >>> person,
>> >> >>> > > >>> since he is contributing to that person's damnation.
>> >> >>> > > >> No evidence backs up this silly claim.
>>
>> >> >>> > > >> Why don't you take it up with Einstein when he returns, that idea
>> >> >>> > > >> has
>> >> >>> > > >> nothing to do with me.- Hide quoted text -
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>> >> >>> > > >> - Show quoted text -
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>> >> >>> > > > Why would Einstein be interested in homosexuality?
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>> >> >>> > > Why would Jesus?- Hide quoted text -
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>> >> >>> > All homosexuals will be judged by Jesus, the same as with sinners of
>> >> >>> > any kind.
>> >> >>> > Robert B. Winn
>>
>> >> >>> Why don't we just wait for him before judging them then?
>> >> >>> I happen to think that if anyone needs judging it is the liars and
>> >> >>> hypocrites. ?But you don't see me campaigning to remove their human
>> >> >>> rights.
>>
>> >> >> Well, yes, I do. ? Like other atheists you campaign for abortion,
>> >> >> which removes the right to live of the people who are killed.
>> >> >> Robert B. Winn
>>
>> >> > Stop being such an idiot.
>> >> > Why do you equate atheism with pro-abortionism?
>> >> > They are not the same thing.
>> >> > You have already been corrected in your mistaken belief that all atheists
>> >> > are pro-abortion, so why do you insist on lying?
>>
>> >> We may be (and I am) pro-choice, but none, AFAIK, are pro-abortion.
>>
>> >Pro-choice today is used interchangably with pro-abortion.
>>
>> Only by liars, particularly the liars who call themselves pro-life, but
>> prove by their politics that they love killing people.
>>
>> >You are
>> >not pro-choice because you are opposed to the choices that would be
>> >made by any children killed by abortion.
>>
>> Children are not killed by abortion.- Hide quoted text -
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>> - Show quoted text -
>
>Well, here we are at another word besides gay that atheists are trying
>to change the meaning of.  Fortunately for Christian people, we have
>the Bible.
>
>Luke 2:4  And Joseph also went up from Galilee, out of the city of
>Nazareth, into Judea, unto the city of David, which is called
>Bethlehem; (because he was of the house and lineage of David:)
>
>5  To be taxed with Mary his espoused wife, being great with child.
>
>So do you really think you are going to be able to change the meaning?

How do you know what it meant in the original language? What you have
there is the 17th-century way of saying "she was very pregnant".
Unless you can prove that the original language (what is it, Greek?)
actually used a word which definitely says the unborn which she was
carrying was a "child" (though even those who permit abortion do not
deny it by the time it reaches that point) you haven't proved
anything.

The gospel of Luke wasn't written in English, you know (do you?)

Linda ff
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From: Linda Fox <linda.ff@ntlworld.com>
Newsgroups: sci.physics,cam.misc,alt.sci.physics,alt.atheism
Subject: Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
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