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Article #11513Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: Masked Avenger
Date: Sat, 02 Aug 2008 13:12
Date: Sat, 02 Aug 2008 13:12
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rbwinn wrote: > On Aug 1, 5:57�am, Masked Avenger <cootey...@yahoo.com> wrote: >> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, really, aren't you talking about communism and totalitarianism? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What does atheism have to do with it? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Under World Communism one of the pre-requisites for being a dictator >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was being an atheist. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Because Karl Marx said that religion was the opiate of the people. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> And...? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Religious people were not allowed to be Communist dictators. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cite? >>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, just go ahead and list all of the Communist dictators who were >>>>>>>>>>>>> Christians, Daniel. >>>>>>>>>>>> Thomas M ntzer, for starters. >>>>>>>>>>>> I have more, but I think even one example destroys your guess that >>>>>>>>>>>> religious people are not allowed to be communist dictators. >>>>>>>>>>>> By the way, check out this quote from tienne Cabet: "Communism is >>>>>>>>>>>> Christianity... it is pure Christianity, before it was corrupted by >>>>>>>>>>>> Catholicism." >>>>>>>>>>> Never heard of Thomas Muntzer. >>>>>>>>>> Then this is an opportunity for you to do research. Seek and ye shall find. >>>>>>>>>>> Etienne Cabet sent a colony to Nauvoo, >>>>>>>>>>> Illinois, to take over the houses left by members of the Church of >>>>>>>>>>> Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints who were driven from the city by >>>>>>>>>>> mobs. The Communist colony failed. >>>>>>>>>> Irrelevant. >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> Well, I do not think it was irrelevant. >>>>>>>> It is irrelevant to whether Christians can be communist and whether >>>>>>>> Christians can become communist dictators. >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Well, it was not irrelevant at the time, just as it is not irrelevant >>>>>>> now whether independent voters are allowed to run for office in this >>>>>>> country. >>>>>> Um, what? >>>>> Since the election of 1800 political party politicians have passed >>>>> laws at state level designed to keep independent voters from running >>>>> for public office. >>>> What has that got to do with Christian Communistic Dictators? >>>> (And independent voters can't run for public office?! WHAT?!) >>>> -- >>> Political party politicians are passing laws as we speak to prevent >>> independent voters from running for office. �In Arizona, the state >>> where I live, an independent voter is required to obtain about 20,000 >>> nomination petition signatures to appear on the ballot for the same >>> office a major party candidate is required to obtain 3,000 signatures >>> to appear on the ballot. >>> States like Alabama, Oregon, and Pennsylvania have been passing >>> similar laws designed to insure that independent voters cannot compete >>> with party candidates for ballot access. >>> Robert B. Winn >> OK ...... I'm lost now ...... can we back up a bit here ? >> How does people moving into vacant Mormon Houses and Independent voters >> running or not running for office in Arizona, relate to whether or not a >> Communist can be a Christian OR a Christian can be a communist Dictator ?? >> Bob ...... can you please just TRY and stay on one topic for at least a >> few posts ? My head is hurting from trying to follow your logic ( or >> what passes for it ) up hill and down dale ..... through hoops and under >> fences ..... >> >> -- >> MA ....Yoiks .... and away ..... >> >> Only two things are infinite, the Universe and human stupidity >> ............. and I'm not sure about the Universe .......... >> � - A. Einstein >> >> Does Schr�dinger's cat have 18 half lives ?- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > > Well, follow what you want to follow. I never told you to follow me. > Robert B. Winn If you want to impress people with your logic ........... try using some ....... I'm trying to figure out why someone with at least a passing knowledge of science can believe such nonsense as the Christian myth ...... it doesn't appear logical .... and your posts certainly don't imply that you even understand what logic is......... -- MA ....Yoiks .... and away ..... Only two things are infinite, the Universe and human stupidity ............. and I'm not sure about the Universe .......... - A. Einstein Does Schrödinger's cat have 18 half lives ?
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