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rbwinn wrote:
> On Aug 1, 8:26�am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>> rbwinn wrote:
>>> On Jul 31, 6:21 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>> On Jul 31, 5:52 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>> On Jul 30, 10:15 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Jul 30, 6:14 pm, "Smiler" <Smi...@Joe.King.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> news:9dcddedb-bce6-457f-b0c5-d9a6d2bb6bd7@m45g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 22, 10:04?am, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>> news:8ab589a3-2731-4a92-a41e-d6870a4e6f4b@k13g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 21, 10:08 pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:efa8da13-56b6-4386-bfe5-c571b689a669@d1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> God is the same yesterday, today, and forever.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You have no evidence at all about God.- Hide quoted text -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Would you like me to send you a copy of the Bible?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
>>>>>>>>>>>>> You could, but it would be much better if you could provide some
>>>>>>>>>>>>> evidence
>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> God as well.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve O
>>>>>>>>>>>> God sent His Only Begotten Son, Steve. ?If that was not enough for
>>>>>>>>>>>> you, nothing I could do or say is going to convince you of anything.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
>>>>>>>>>>> Got any evidence that Jesus was the son of God?
>>>>>>>>>>> Please don't say, "the Bible" - that isn't evidence of anything at all,
>>>>>>>>>>> it's
>>>>>>>>>>> just an old, old story.
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> Steve O
>>>>>>>>>> Well, actually the Bible is evidence of Hezekiah's tunnel. Three
>>>>>>>>>> different books of the Old Testament describe the construction of
>>>>>>>>>> Hezekiah's tunnel.
>>>>>>>>>> ================================
>>>>>>>>>> Several of the Harry Potter books mention Kings Cross station.
>>>>>>>>>> Does that make the Harry Potter stories true?
>>>>>>>>>> Smiler,
>>>>>>>>> Why don't you spend some more time studying it, Smiler, and decide for
>>>>>>>>> yourself? I know that atheists are a little lacking in self-
>>>>>>>>> confidence, but I think you could decide this question for yourself.
>>>>>>>> I've studied Hezekiah's Tunnel since you brought it up. I still fail to
>>>>>>>> see what its existence has to do with the truthfulness of the Bible.
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>>>>>>>> * DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226 *
>>>>>>> Well, first you would have to make a decision about Hezekiah's
>>>>>>> tunnel. Does the tunnel really exist or is it just a hoax the way one
>>>>>>> atheist claimed?
>>>>>> Which atheist? Provide a quote.
>>>>>>> Then if you decide it exists, how does that relate
>>>>>>> to the description of its construction in the Old Testament? Was the
>>>>>>> tunnel seen today the tunnel described in the Old Testament, or is it
>>>>>>> some other tunnel the way atheists continue to say in this newsgroup?
>>>>>> Which atheists? Provide quotes.
>>>>>>> I know this is difficult, but it really is possible for an atheist to
>>>>>>> make a decision about this.
>>>>>>> The verses of the Bible that describe the construction of Hezekiah's
>>>>>>> tunnel are either true, or they are false. So far, having said that
>>>>>>> the Bible is only myth, atheists are not willing to admit that there
>>>>>>> are verses describing the construction of Hezekiah's tunnel that are
>>>>>>> obviously true.
>>>>>> How about this mindblower:
>>>>>> Hezekiah's Tunnel exists. The Bible talks about it. The Bible is
>>>>>> true...on this fact only...but has nothing to do with the truthfulness
>>>>>> of the Bible.
>>>>>> Look at every fiction story ever written. A great majority of them
>>>>>> write about the Earth. An even greater majority talk about humans.
>>>>>> Does that mean that the book itself is now nonfiction since it describe
>>>>>> the Earth exactly how we see it today and how humans are?
>>>>> Well, we have made progress to a point, that an atheist has admitted
>>>>> that the Biblical account of the construction of Hezekiah's tunnel is
>>>>> true. First of all, not all fiction books describe the construction
>>>>> of something that can be observed.
>>>> And that's irrelevant.
>>>>> But your premise is wrong. Just because you can find a fiction book
>>>>> that describes something that can be seen does not prove that all
>>>>> books that describe something that can be seen are fiction.
>>>> Doesn't prove they're nonfiction, either. You're starting to get it.
>>>> Just because a book talks about the construction of something is
>>>> irrelevant to the veracity of the book.
>>> No, it is not irrelevant.
>> Yes. �Yes, it is.
>>
>>
>>
>>>>> The
>>>>> furthest you can go would be to say that the book that describes
>>>>> something that can be seen could be fiction or non-fiction, but you
>>>>> cannot say that you have proven it to be fiction. So you would have
>>>>> to find something else in the book that you claim is fiction, not
>>>>> Hezekiah's tunnel, which has been proven to be non-fiction. I hope
>>>>> this will help you in your studies.
>>>> When you get on to proving that God thing as non-fiction, do let me know.
>>>> --
>>> God already proved it. �If you reject the atonement of Christ for your
>>> sins, it is your problem, not mine.
>> God has done nothing of the sort. �Someone told you that God proved it,
>> but do you have any evidence that he did?
>>
>> PS: Your threat given vicariously through some dead guy we can't even
>> show to exist is summarily rejected.
>>
> There is no threat.  

Sure there is.  The failure to atone for "sins" is everlasting torture.

> You atheists say that you do not want to enter
> heaven.  You will get exactly what you say you want.  So where is the
> threat?
> It is a threat to give someone what they say they want?

You've not heard of "Hell", have you?


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