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On Jul 31, 8:21�pm, "Smiler" <Smi...@Joe.King.com> wrote:
> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
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> On Jul 30, 6:05?pm, "Smiler" <Smi...@Joe.King.com> wrote:
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> > "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
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> >news:c782d4e1-608d-45ff-92b3-1a9b7266a7ab@2g2000hsn.googlegroups.com...
> > On Jul 22, 1:09?pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
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> > > rbwinn wrote:
> > > > On Jul 21, 12:00 am, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
> > > >> rbwinn wrote:
> > > >>> On Jul 20, 1:00 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
> > > >>>> rbwinn wrote:
> > > >>>>> On Jul 20, 3:30 am, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
> > > >>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> > > >>>>>>> On Jul 19, 8:49 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>> On Jul 19, 7:19 am, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz>
> > > >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 18, 8:13 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 18, 4:06 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 6:47 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 5:43 am, DanielSan
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <daniel...@speakeasy.net>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 5:26 am, DanielSan
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 16, 7:24 pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Al)"
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 12:09 am, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 15, 1:25 am, "Steve O"
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>news:c6ff2090-3c5f-4de6-97bf-0641d818d2e2@l64g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When are you going to admit you're a
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> satanist,
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bobbie?
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have never been involved in atheism.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Satanism is a faith.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is not a subset of atheism.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve O
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, atheism is a cult of people who say, We do
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not believe in
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> following anything., who follow Satan around.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, Christian are those that say they follow a
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> god of love, who in
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fact follow one of the most evil deities of all
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> history.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Al- Hide quoted text -
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Exactly which teachings of Jesus Christ do you
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> find
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to be evil?
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, you think that Christians ONLY follow the
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> teachings of Jesus? ?What,
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for example, did Jesus say about homosexuality?
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He said to repent from any sins. ?That would include
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> homosexuality.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Homosexuality isn't a sin.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, what did Jesus say about homosexuality?
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jesus Christ said that repentance from any sin is
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> necessary before the
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> person can enter heaven. ?That includes the sin of
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> homosexuality.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But homosexuality is not a sin. ?Unless you can find
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> where it says that
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it is.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Homosexuality is a sin regardless of what I do. ?There
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> no one on
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> earth who cannot tell that homosexuality is a sin.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm on the Earth, and I have no problem with gay people.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> What they do in
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the privacy of their homes doesn't impact on me one iota.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why on Earth
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> would I have a problem with homosexuals?- Hide quoted
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> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> I did not say you had a problem. ?I said that you are able
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> to tell
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> that homosexuality is a sin. ? If you say you cannot tell
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> it
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> is a sin,
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> you are not telling the truth.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> I don't even subscribe to the concept of sin, so no I don't
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> think it
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> sinful. You may think it wrong, I don't. I can't think of
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> any
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> reason I
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> would.- Hide quoted text -
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Well, you would not think of it as sin when your fellow
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> atheist Josef
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Stalin killed 12 million people. ?He was just born that way
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> like
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> homosexuals are, right?
> > > >>>>>>>>>> Immoral behaviour exists quite apart from "sin" outside your
> > > >>>>>>>>>> wacky myths.
> > > >>>>>>>>>> You will note that we're not all killing peasants left, right
> > > >>>>>>>>>> and centre.- Hide quoted text -
> > > >>>>>>>>> Homosexuality is immoral behavior. ?So is killing 12 million
> > > >>>>>>>>> people.
> > > >>>>>>>> Homosexuality is not immoral.
> > > >>>>>>>> --
> > > >>>>>>> Josef Stalin said that killing 12 million people was not
> > > >>>>>>> immoral.
> > > >>>>>> What kind of argument is that? Are you equivocating slaughter
> > > >>>>>> with
> > > >>>>>> homosexuality?- Hide quoted text -
> > > >>>>> What is your question supposed to mean? ?Equivocate does not mean
> > > >>>>> to
> > > >>>>> set something equal to something else. ?This is a typical atheist
> > > >>>>> question. ?You people think you can change the world by asking
> > > >>>>> ambiguous questions.
> > > >>>> I didn't understand your link between Joseph Stalin and being gay.
> > > >>>> I
> > > >>>> was
> > > >>>> aksing for clarification. If you're not able to provide it...- Hide
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> > > >>> The conversation about this particular link between Josef Stalin and
> > > >>> homosexuals began when an atheist said he did not have sins because
> > > >>> he
> > > >>> did not believe in sin. ? I said that Josef Stalin had felt the same
> > > >>> way when he killed 12 million people because he was an atheist and
> > > >>> did
> > > >>> not believe in sin either. ?Then homosexuals came into the
> > > >>> conversation because atheists were saying that homosexuality was not
> > > >>> a
> > > >>> sin. ?So the common thread in all this seems to be atheism.
> > > >> What does Joseph Stalin's crimes have to do with any of us. I don't
> > > >> believe in sin, and I've never slaughtered anyone. How is that
> > > >> example
> > > >> remotely releveant?
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> > > >> I still have no sensible reason to regard homosexuality as immoral. I
> > > >> know many in your religion don't like it, but no gay person ever did
> > > >> me
> > > >> any harm.- Hide quoted text -
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> > > > Well, what harm did Josef Stalin do to you? ?Her certainly was ahead
> > > > of his time with regard to population control, something that atheists
> > > > of today are all concerned about.
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> > > I can empathise with his victims and surmise that he was, in the
> > > parlance of simple religious belief, "a bad man".
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> > > Normal gay men don't have victims. So where's the crime? Why should I
> > > hate them as you do?- Hide quoted text -
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> > I think that people should be gay. ?Gay means happy.
> > ====================================
> > Yep. Happy to be homosexual, skippy.
> > ==============================
> > ?I think
> > =====================
> > No evidence for that assertion has been seen in any of your posts.
> > ======================================
> > you are
> > trying to refer to homosexual people. ?I do not hate any criminals.
> > =============================================
> > But you hate homosexuals.
> > What have they ever done to you, skippy?
>
> So you are saying that back in the 1800's when people said gay, they
> were talking about homosexuals. �When they said gay nineties, they
> were talking about homosexual activities. �I do not hate homosexuals,
> but it sort of irks me that they would ruin a perfectly good word in
> the English language. �Now black people are understandably offended
> when anyone sings the words to Old Kentucky Home.
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> Do you still call a false hairpiece a perriwig?
> Do you still call the public transport road vehicle an omnibus?
> Are the yellow vehicles in New York still called taximeter-cabriolets?
> Language changes and evolves, skippy. Get over it.
>
I still use the word gay to mean happy because that was how it was
used until the 1960's.  If you substitute the word homosexual for gay
for anything written before that time, you are misinterpreting what
was said.  Secondly, homosexual people are not happy, so it does not
describe them today.
Robert B. Winn