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On Jul 30, 3:13�am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> rbwinn wrote:
> > On Jul 22, 5:25 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >> rbwinn wrote:
> >>> On Jul 21, 8:49 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>> On Jul 21, 7:33 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Jul 21, 6:38 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On Jul 20, 7:54 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 20, 2:53 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 20, 10:00 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 20, 6:34 am, Stan-O <bndsna...@aol.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 22:27:44 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, a couple of atheists have told me that. ?They said he was a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Russian Orthodox and an alcoholic.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He was an alcoholic.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, you're making things up again.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hint: He was not a Christian merely because an atheist claimed he was...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hint #2: ?What school did Stalin go to in 1888?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stalin went to a Russian Orthodox seminary. ?He rejected what he was
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> taught there and became a mass murderer.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Only partially true. Like I told you before, politicians, and in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> particular tyrants, will say anything to gain or remain in power.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, Stalin did say he was an atheist. ?He told the truth about that.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He never openly admitted this. In fact, his religious beliefs were
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pretty vague. What he hated was the concept of god as presented by the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ROC. He did, however, find a political use for the church when it
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> suited his purpose.- Hide quoted text -
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That is quite a statement. So you are saying that Stalin did not
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> believe in the Communist Manifesto?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tyrants will use or believe anything to maintain their control. He
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> probably found some parts useful, and ignored anything that
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contradicted his personally ideologies...pretty much the same with you
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and your bible...- Hide quoted text -
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stalin tried to stamp out religion in the Soviet Union. It is well
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> documented.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> And what's that got to do with atheism?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Stalin was a prominent atheist of his time who is claimed to have been
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> a Christian by atheists of today.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Don't change the subject. What has what Stalin tried to do relevant to
> >>>>>>>>>>>> atheism?
> >>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>> So what is the matter? Stalin and Pol Pot were atheists. They will
> >>>>>>>>>>> never turn into Christians no matter how many times you try to claim
> >>>>>>>>>>> they were.
> >>>>>>>>>>> Don't you atheists ever take responsibility for anything?
> >>>>>>>>>> Because what they did is irrelevant to me? Now, back onto the question
> >>>>>>>>>> you are REFUSING to answer:
> >>>>>>>>>> What has what Stalin tried to do ("tried to stamp out religion in the
> >>>>>>>>>> Soviet Union") relevant to atheism?
> >>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>> It is relevant to atheism because Stalin was an atheist.
> >>>>>>>> So, is it also relevant to masculinity? Stalin was a man, after all...
> >>>>>>>> Stalin also had a mustache. Is that relevant, too?
> >>>>>>>> Oh, Stalin was also born in December. Is that relevant?
> >>>>>>>> Stalin married a wife. Is that relevant?
> >>>>>>> Why don't you just decide for yourself what you think is relevant,
> >>>>>>> Daniel?
> >>>>>> How about none of it being relevant?
> >>>>> Well, you get to decide for yourself. Don't be bashful.
> >>>> Fine. He's a man. You're a man. I decide that you and Stalin are the
> >>>> same.
> >>>> Happy?
> >>> I am happy. Josef Stalin was another story.
> >> Okay, Mr Stalin. May I call you Stalin from now on?
>
> >> --
> > As far as I am concerned, you can do whatever you decide to do. �I do
> > not pay any attention to what you do.
>
> This is obviously wrong since you're paying attention to what I post. �:-)
>
> --
Well, no, I just try to answer your questions.  You just asked if you
could call me Stalin.
Robert B. Winn