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On Jul 22, 5:25�am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> rbwinn wrote:
> > On Jul 21, 8:49 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >> rbwinn wrote:
> >>> On Jul 21, 7:33 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>> On Jul 21, 6:38 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Jul 20, 7:54 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On Jul 20, 2:53 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 20, 10:00 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 20, 6:34 am, Stan-O <bndsna...@aol.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 22:27:44 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, a couple of atheists have told me that. ?They said he was a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Russian Orthodox and an alcoholic.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He was an alcoholic.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, you're making things up again.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hint: He was not a Christian merely because an atheist claimed he was...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hint #2: ?What school did Stalin go to in 1888?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stalin went to a Russian Orthodox seminary. ?He rejected what he was
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> taught there and became a mass murderer.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Only partially true. Like I told you before, politicians, and in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> particular tyrants, will say anything to gain or remain in power.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, Stalin did say he was an atheist. ?He told the truth about that.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He never openly admitted this. In fact, his religious beliefs were
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pretty vague. What he hated was the concept of god as presented by the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ROC. He did, however, find a political use for the church when it
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> suited his purpose.- Hide quoted text -
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That is quite a statement. So you are saying that Stalin did not
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> believe in the Communist Manifesto?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tyrants will use or believe anything to maintain their control. He
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> probably found some parts useful, and ignored anything that
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> contradicted his personally ideologies...pretty much the same with you
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and your bible...- Hide quoted text -
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Stalin tried to stamp out religion in the Soviet Union. �It is well
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> documented.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> And what's that got to do with atheism?
> >>>>>>>>>>> Stalin was a prominent atheist of his time who is claimed to have been
> >>>>>>>>>>> a Christian by atheists of today.
> >>>>>>>>>> Don't change the subject. �What has what Stalin tried to do relevant to
> >>>>>>>>>> atheism?
> >>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>> So what is the matter? �Stalin and Pol Pot were atheists. �They will
> >>>>>>>>> never turn into Christians no matter how many times you try to claim
> >>>>>>>>> they were.
> >>>>>>>>> Don't you atheists ever take responsibility for anything?
> >>>>>>>> Because what they did is irrelevant to me? �Now, back onto the question
> >>>>>>>> you are REFUSING to answer:
> >>>>>>>> What has what Stalin tried to do ("tried to stamp out religion in the
> >>>>>>>> Soviet Union") relevant to atheism?
> >>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>> It is relevant to atheism because Stalin was an atheist.
> >>>>>> So, is it also relevant to masculinity? �Stalin was a man, after all...
> >>>>>> � Stalin also had a mustache. �Is that relevant, too?
> >>>>>> Oh, Stalin was also born in December. �Is that relevant?
> >>>>>> Stalin married a wife. �Is that relevant?
> >>>>> Why don't you just decide for yourself what you think is relevant,
> >>>>> Daniel?
> >>>> How about none of it being relevant?
> >>> Well, you get to decide for yourself. �Don't be bashful.
> >> Fine. �He's a man. �You're a man. �I decide that you and Stalin are the
> >> same.
>
> >> Happy?
>
> > I am happy. �Josef Stalin was another story.
>
> Okay, Mr Stalin. �May I call you Stalin from now on?
>
> --
As far as I am concerned, you can do whatever you decide to do.  I do
not pay any attention to what you do.
Robert B. Winn