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On Jul 22, 1:06�pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
> rbwinn wrote:
> > On Jul 20, 11:57 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
> >> Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al) wrote:
>
> >>> On Jul 21, 12:51 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
> >>>> On Jul 20, 2:53 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>> On Jul 20, 10:00 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>>> On Jul 20, 6:34 am, Stan-O <bndsna...@aol.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 22:27:44 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com>
> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, a couple of atheists have told me that. ?They said he was a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Russian Orthodox and an alcoholic.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He was an alcoholic.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, you're making things up again.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hint: He was not a Christian merely because an atheist claimed he was...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hint #2: ?What school did Stalin go to in 1888?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stalin went to a Russian Orthodox seminary. ?He rejected what he was
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> taught there and became a mass murderer.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Only partially true. Like I told you before, politicians, and in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> particular tyrants, will say anything to gain or remain in power.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Well, Stalin did say he was an atheist. ?He told the truth about that.
> >>>>>>>>>>> He never openly admitted this. In fact, his religious beliefs were
> >>>>>>>>>>> pretty vague. What he hated was the concept of god as presented by the
> >>>>>>>>>>> ROC. He did, however, find a political use for the church when it
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> >>>>>>>>>> That is quite a statement. So you are saying that Stalin did not
> >>>>>>>>>> believe in the Communist Manifesto?
> >>>>>>>>> Tyrants will use or believe anything to maintain their control. He
> >>>>>>>>> probably found some parts useful, and ignored anything that
> >>>>>>>>> contradicted his personally ideologies...pretty much the same with you
> >>>>>>>>> and your bible...- Hide quoted text -
> >>>>>>>> Stalin tried to stamp out religion in the Soviet Union. �It is well
> >>>>>>>> documented.
> >>>>>>> And what's that got to do with atheism?
> >>>>>> Stalin was a prominent atheist of his time who is claimed to have been
> >>>>>> a Christian by atheists of today.
> >>>>> Don't change the subject. �What has what Stalin tried to do relevant to
> >>>>> atheism?
> >>>>> --
> >>>> So what is the matter? �Stalin and Pol Pot were atheists. �They will
> >>>> never turn into Christians no matter how many times you try to claim
> >>>> they were.
> >>>> Don't you atheists ever take responsibility for anything?
> >>>> Robert B. Winn
> >>> Yes. �Personal responsibility. �I'm not Pol Pot, nor am I Joseph
> >>> Stalin. �Nor do they represent normal atheists.
> >>> If you want to take responsibility for all crimes committed by
> >>> religious people, feel free. �There's plenty butchers in that camp.
> >> Exactly, I never really understood the smear campaigns. I am only
> >> responsible for my own actions, a responsibility I happily accept. I
> >> cannot be held responsible for atrocities committed before I was born,
> >> no matter how similar the perp's worldview is to mine.
>
> >> I've never killed anyone, and I don't intend to.- Hide quoted text -
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> > That is very commendable. �Pol Pot was just an unassuming person also
> > until he became a Communist dictator.
>
> It didn't work with Joseph Stalin, it won't work with Pol Pot.
>
> You are religiously insane. I won't compare you to any historical
> figure, as it's pointless and irrelevant. I'll just state the assertion
> and cite this thread as evidence.- Hide quoted text -
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Well, but what are you going to do if you become a dictator?
Robert B. Winn