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On Jul 23, 9:34 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> BuddyThunder wrote:
> > rbwinn wrote:
> >> On Jul 21, 12:06 am, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
> >>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>> On Jul 20, 2:36 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>> On Jul 20, 9:54 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>>> On Jul 20, 3:29 am, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> On Jul 19, 7:19 am, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 18, 8:13 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 18, 4:06 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 6:47 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 5:43 am, DanielSan
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 5:26 am, DanielSan
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 16, 7:24 pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)"
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 12:09 am, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 15, 1:25 am, "Steve O"
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>news:c6ff2090-3c5f-4de6-97bf-0641d818d2e2@l64g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When are you going to admit you're a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> satanist, bobbie?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have never been involved in atheism.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Satanism is a faith.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is not a subset of atheism.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve O
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, atheism is a cult of people who say, We do
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not believe in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> following anything., who follow Satan around.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, Christian are those that say they follow a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> god of love, who in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fact follow one of the most evil deities of all
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> history.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Al- Hide quoted text -
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Exactly which teachings of Jesus Christ do you
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> find to be evil?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, you think that Christians ONLY follow the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> teachings of Jesus?  What,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for example, did Jesus say about homosexuality?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He said to repent from any sins.  That would include
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> homosexuality.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Homosexuality isn't a sin.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, what did Jesus say about homosexuality?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jesus Christ said that repentance from any sin is
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> necessary before the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> person can enter heaven.  That includes the sin of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> homosexuality.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But homosexuality is not a sin.  Unless you can find
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> where it says that
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it is.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Homosexuality is a sin regardless of what I do.  There
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is no one on
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> earth who cannot tell that homosexuality is a sin.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm on the Earth, and I have no problem with gay people.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What they do in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the privacy of their homes doesn't impact on me one iota.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why on Earth
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would I have a problem with homosexuals?- Hide quoted text -
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> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I did not say you had a problem.  I said that you are able
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to tell
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> that homosexuality is a sin.   If you say you cannot tell
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> it is a sin,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> you are not telling the truth.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't even subscribe to the concept of sin, so no I don't
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> think it
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> sinful. You may think it wrong, I don't. I can't think of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> any reason I
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> >>>>>>>>>>>> Well, you would not think of it as sin when your fellow
> >>>>>>>>>>>> atheist Josef
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Stalin killed 12 million people.  He was just born that way
> >>>>>>>>>>>> like
> >>>>>>>>>>>> homosexuals are, right?
> >>>>>>>>>>> Immoral behaviour exists quite apart from "sin" outside your
> >>>>>>>>>>> wacky myths.
> >>>>>>>>>>> You will note that we're not all killing peasants left, right
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> >>>>>>>>>> Homosexuality is immoral behavior.  So is killing 12 million
> >>>>>>>>>> people.
> >>>>>>>>> Why shouldn't I like homosexuals? I don't have any reason not
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> >>>>>>>> It does not matter if you like or dislike homosexuals.
> >>>>>>>> Homosexuality
> >>>>>>>> will remain a sin.
> >>>>>>> No, it doesn't.  Look, it sounds like you need to reread your Bible.
> >>>>>>> You don't even know what's sinful and what isn't.
> >>>>>>> --
> >>>>>> There is no one who cannot tell homosexuality is a sin, including the
> >>>>>> people who participate in it.
> >>>>> Jesus certainly didn't say anything about homosexuality being a sin.
> >>>>> --
> >>>> You need to understand who Jesus Christ was.  He plainly said that he
> >>>> was Jehovah, the God of the Old Testament.  So he said what was in the
> >>>> Old Testament as well as what he said in the New Testament.
> >>> But the Levitical laws were fulfilled in Jesus, so we can eat as much
> >>> shellfish and be as super-gay as we like. What? You only cherrypick the
> >>> bits you like?- Hide quoted text -
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> >> As Jesus Christ said, The letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.
> >> What you do is your problem.  As far as I can tell, you want to spend
> >> eternity trying to dustify sin.
>
> > There is no sin. It's a silly idea that you haven't been able to back up
> > at all. I just believe that people should be free to go about their
> > lives free of inexplicable religious bigotry. If you don't think you
> > fall into that category, then explain yourself. Otherwise worry about
> > your own failings before the perceived ones of others.
>
> Actually, there was.  "Sin" was the Judeochristian word for "criminal
> activity".  If we do not break the law, we are not 'sinning'.  Simple.
>
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> *          DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226            *
> *----------------------------------------------------*
> * "I distrust those people who know so well what God *
> *  wants them to do because I notice it always       *
> *  coincides with their own desires."                *
> *                                 --Susan B. Anthony *
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Well, we have laws, in criminal codes and with punishment, not
forgiveness.
And we also know common sense and don't do things even distasteful.