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Re: Does God need to prove He exists?

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From: hhyapster
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 05:36
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On Jul 25, 12:15ย am, "pba...@worldonline.nl" <pba...@worldonline.nl>
wrote:
> On 22 jul, 05:58, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
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> > On Jul 21, 7:45ย pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
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> > > rbwinn wrote:
> > > > On Jul 21, 11:52 am, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote:
> > > >> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
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> > > >>news:eb8a53af-5a7c-4f8d-b8ce-3b4ee0c36918@a1g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
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> > > >>>> The Winn has a mental problem and there is no point to talk reason
> > > >>>> with him....we have to wait for the medicine to be invented before a
> > > >>>> mental disease get cured.
> > > >>> In other words, you do not like to talk about religion, and you want
> > > >>> to prevent discussion of religion.
> > > >>> Robert B. Winn
> > > >> Nonsense.
> > > >> We love talking about religion.
> > > >> In fact, we're probably experts on the subject.
> > > >> Most of us have taken the time to find out as much as possible about it.
> > > >> It's part of the reason why we're atheists.
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> > > > So you were just pretending to be ignorant about religion?
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> > > Sorry, where have we claimed that we were ignorant of religion?
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> > > --
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> > Well, it is not what you claim, it is what you are that counts.
> > Robert B. Winn- Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht niet weergeven -
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> > - Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht weergeven -
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> On a forum like this Robert, we know little about what somebody is.
> Actually we only know what people say.
> We know now, supposing you are not deceitfull,
> that you are under the illusion that atheists are ignorant about
> religion.
> You should know by now that atheists are not.
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> Could it be that you are misinterpreting Agnosticism?
> Agnostics claim to have no knowledge about God.
> With that they do not mean they are ignorant about religion.
> Most Agnostics are very well informed about religion.
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> However they maintain that it is not possible to proof any religious
> claim,
> and therefoer real knowledge about dieties is still lacking.
> Informing them about what you think is true, won't help.
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> They will simply claim that there is no way to verify what you say
> objectively.
> Sometimes it is possible to falsify religious claims, but if the
> theist claims his God has been tempering with the evidence, as to make
> it seem that the religious claims are false. There is of course no way
> to disproof that.
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> Thus Agnostics will politity say, that they do not know (for sure).
> Weak Atheist will be so honest to say that they do not really believe
> you
> and Strong Atheists (like me) will say that based on probability
> they have indeed ample reason to believe that there is no God.
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> All will say that regardless of wether they have more religious
> information than you have or ย less.
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> They know most
> They believe almost none.
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> Love,
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> Peter van Velzen
> (Strong) Atheist#1107
> July 2008
> Amstelveen
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Yes, but your message will fall on the deaf ear of a deeply disturbed
mind who admitted escaping from V.A. Hospital.
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Subject: Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
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