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Article #11948Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: hhyapster
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 05:36
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 05:36
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On Jul 25, 12:15ย am, "pba...@worldonline.nl" <pba...@worldonline.nl> wrote: > On 22 jul, 05:58, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Jul 21, 7:45ย pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > > > > rbwinn wrote: > > > > On Jul 21, 11:52 am, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote: > > > >> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message > > > > >>news:eb8a53af-5a7c-4f8d-b8ce-3b4ee0c36918@a1g2000hsb.googlegroups.com... > > > > >>>> The Winn has a mental problem and there is no point to talk reason > > > >>>> with him....we have to wait for the medicine to be invented before a > > > >>>> mental disease get cured. > > > >>> In other words, you do not like to talk about religion, and you want > > > >>> to prevent discussion of religion. > > > >>> Robert B. Winn > > > >> Nonsense. > > > >> We love talking about religion. > > > >> In fact, we're probably experts on the subject. > > > >> Most of us have taken the time to find out as much as possible about it. > > > >> It's part of the reason why we're atheists. > > > > > So you were just pretending to be ignorant about religion? > > > > Sorry, where have we claimed that we were ignorant of religion? > > > > -- > > > Well, it is not what you claim, it is what you are that counts. > > Robert B. Winn- Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht niet weergeven - > > > - Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht weergeven - > > On a forum like this Robert, we know little about what somebody is. > Actually we only know what people say. > We know now, supposing you are not deceitfull, > that you are under the illusion that atheists are ignorant about > religion. > You should know by now that atheists are not. > > Could it be that you are misinterpreting Agnosticism? > Agnostics claim to have no knowledge about God. > With that they do not mean they are ignorant about religion. > Most Agnostics are very well informed about religion. > > However they maintain that it is not possible to proof any religious > claim, > and therefoer real knowledge about dieties is still lacking. > Informing them about what you think is true, won't help. > > They will simply claim that there is no way to verify what you say > objectively. > Sometimes it is possible to falsify religious claims, but if the > theist claims his God has been tempering with the evidence, as to make > it seem that the religious claims are false. There is of course no way > to disproof that. > > Thus Agnostics will politity say, that they do not know (for sure). > Weak Atheist will be so honest to say that they do not really believe > you > and Strong Atheists (like me) will say that based on probability > they have indeed ample reason to believe that there is no God. > > All will say that regardless of wether they have more religious > information than you have or ย less. > > They know most > They believe almost none. > > Love, > > Peter van Velzen > (Strong) Atheist#1107 > July 2008 > Amstelveen > The Netherlands- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Yes, but your message will fall on the deaf ear of a deeply disturbed mind who admitted escaping from V.A. Hospital.
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!g2news1.google.com!postnews.google.com!r15g2000prh.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail From: hhyapster@gmail.com Newsgroups: sci.physics,cam.misc,alt.sci.physics,alt.atheism Subject: Re: Does God need to prove He exists? Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 22:36:19 -0700 (PDT) Organization: http://groups.google.com Lines: 92 Message-ID: <525f512e-6ee2-470e-96f3-fd0cd5bb9a76@r15g2000prh.googlegroups.com> References: <f8ic749mu7m5okr1vtcacihsi0uf6jdurv@4ax.com> <cf088307-c373-4eeb-998a-7e5ac4f3d49d@k13g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <20214d12-2ea3-48c4-bf9d-1c6cc6a13ee0@2g2000hsn.googlegroups.com> <92d4e7c7-466a-4b81-888e-e62f8b02956a@b1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <BaSdnRCih8IMlh_VnZ2dnUVZ_orinZ2d@speakeasy.net> <9586081f-8027-435e-a82e-316fc5df2e82@x35g2000hsb.googlegroups.com> <6154fde5-eb5b-4a62-bfd9-4f16769b7103@x41g2000hsb.googlegroups.com> <1eacfa78-0859-4008-87e3-37d3abce98ef@p25g2000pri.googlegroups.com> <eb8a53af-5a7c-4f8d-b8ce-3b4ee0c36918@a1g2000hsb.googlegroups.com> <6ek470F7e6atU1@mid.individual.net> <8ed93cb9-cdc3-4a25-9fb3-27cb07bacc40@d1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <4dGdnUjehKdT1BjVnZ2dnUVZ_iydnZ2d@speakeasy.net> <6b414bba-2211-4ed6-999e-a5c1be2fcc88@t54g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <30fc16a9-f7f2-43e3-87fb-e57fb6466e95@a6g2000prm.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 60.50.145.164 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: posting.google.com 1217396180 18260 127.0.0.1 (30 Jul 2008 05:36:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 05:36:20 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: r15g2000prh.googlegroups.com; posting-host=60.50.145.164; posting-account=NPLTlAoAAADnbGreKf-CrqgPY_0uVbLS User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; Windows NT 6.0; SLCC1; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; .NET CLR 3.0.04506),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe)