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rbwinn wrote:
> On Jul 22, 5:25�am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>> rbwinn wrote:
>>> On Jul 21, 8:49 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>> On Jul 21, 7:33 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>> On Jul 21, 6:38 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Jul 20, 7:54 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 20, 2:53 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 20, 10:00 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 20, 6:34 am, Stan-O <bndsna...@aol.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 22:27:44 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, a couple of atheists have told me that. ?They said he was a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Russian Orthodox and an alcoholic.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He was an alcoholic.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, you're making things up again.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hint: He was not a Christian merely because an atheist claimed he was...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hint #2: ?What school did Stalin go to in 1888?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stalin went to a Russian Orthodox seminary. ?He rejected what he was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> taught there and became a mass murderer.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Only partially true. Like I told you before, politicians, and in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> particular tyrants, will say anything to gain or remain in power.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, Stalin did say he was an atheist. ?He told the truth about that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He never openly admitted this. In fact, his religious beliefs were
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pretty vague. What he hated was the concept of god as presented by the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ROC. He did, however, find a political use for the church when it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> suited his purpose.- Hide quoted text -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That is quite a statement. So you are saying that Stalin did not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> believe in the Communist Manifesto?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tyrants will use or believe anything to maintain their control. He
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> probably found some parts useful, and ignored anything that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contradicted his personally ideologies...pretty much the same with you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and your bible...- Hide quoted text -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stalin tried to stamp out religion in the Soviet Union. �It is well
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> documented.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And what's that got to do with atheism?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stalin was a prominent atheist of his time who is claimed to have been
>>>>>>>>>>>>> a Christian by atheists of today.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Don't change the subject. �What has what Stalin tried to do relevant to
>>>>>>>>>>>> atheism?
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> So what is the matter? �Stalin and Pol Pot were atheists. �They will
>>>>>>>>>>> never turn into Christians no matter how many times you try to claim
>>>>>>>>>>> they were.
>>>>>>>>>>> Don't you atheists ever take responsibility for anything?
>>>>>>>>>> Because what they did is irrelevant to me? �Now, back onto the question
>>>>>>>>>> you are REFUSING to answer:
>>>>>>>>>> What has what Stalin tried to do ("tried to stamp out religion in the
>>>>>>>>>> Soviet Union") relevant to atheism?
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> It is relevant to atheism because Stalin was an atheist.
>>>>>>>> So, is it also relevant to masculinity? �Stalin was a man, after all...
>>>>>>>> � Stalin also had a mustache. �Is that relevant, too?
>>>>>>>> Oh, Stalin was also born in December. �Is that relevant?
>>>>>>>> Stalin married a wife. �Is that relevant?
>>>>>>> Why don't you just decide for yourself what you think is relevant,
>>>>>>> Daniel?
>>>>>> How about none of it being relevant?
>>>>> Well, you get to decide for yourself. �Don't be bashful.
>>>> Fine. �He's a man. �You're a man. �I decide that you and Stalin are the
>>>> same.
>>>> Happy?
>>> I am happy. �Josef Stalin was another story.
>> Okay, Mr Stalin. �May I call you Stalin from now on?
>>
>> --
> As far as I am concerned, you can do whatever you decide to do.  I do
> not pay any attention to what you do.

This is obviously wrong since you're paying attention to what I post.  :-)


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