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On 22 jul, 05:58, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
> On Jul 21, 7:45 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
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> > rbwinn wrote:
> > > On Jul 21, 11:52�am, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote:
> > >> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
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> > >>news:eb8a53af-5a7c-4f8d-b8ce-3b4ee0c36918@a1g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
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> > >>>> The Winn has a mental problem and there is no point to talk reason
> > >>>> with him....we have to wait for the medicine to be invented before a
> > >>>> mental disease get cured.
> > >>> In other words, you do not like to talk about religion, and you want
> > >>> to prevent discussion of religion.
> > >>> Robert B. Winn
> > >> Nonsense.
> > >> We love talking about religion.
> > >> In fact, we're probably experts on the subject.
> > >> Most of us have taken the time to find out as much as possible about it.
> > >> It's part of the reason why we're atheists.
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> > > So you were just pretending to be ignorant about religion?
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> > Sorry, where have we claimed that we were ignorant of religion?
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> Well, it is not what you claim, it is what you are that counts.
> Robert B. Winn- Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht niet weergeven -
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On a forum like this Robert, we know little about what somebody is.
Actually we only know what people say.
We know now, supposing you are not deceitfull,
that you are under the illusion that atheists are ignorant about
religion.
You should know by now that atheists are not.

Could it be that you are misinterpreting Agnosticism?
Agnostics claim to have no knowledge about God.
With that they do not mean they are ignorant about religion.
Most Agnostics are very well informed about religion.

However they maintain that it is not possible to proof any religious
claim,
and therefoer real knowledge about dieties is still lacking.
Informing them about what you think is true, won't help.

They will simply claim that there is no way to verify what you say
objectively.
Sometimes it is possible to falsify religious claims, but if the
theist claims his God has been tempering with the evidence, as to make
it seem that the religious claims are false. There is of course no way
to disproof that.

Thus Agnostics will politity say, that they do not know (for sure).
Weak Atheist will be so honest to say that they do not really believe
you
and Strong Atheists (like me) will say that based on probability
they have indeed ample reason to believe that there is no God.

All will say that regardless of wether they have more religious
information than you have or  less.

They know most
They believe almost none.

Love,

Peter van Velzen
(Strong) Atheist#1107
July 2008
Amstelveen
The Netherlands