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Re: Does God need to prove He exists?

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From: Alex W.
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 17:33
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"Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)" <alwhipp@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message 
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> On Jul 24, 5:56 am, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
>> Alex W. wrote:
>> > "BuddyThunder" <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote in message
>> >news:48864044$1@clear.net.nz...
>>
>> >> There is no sin. It's a silly idea that you haven't been able to back 
>> >> up
>> >> at all. I just believe that people should be free to go about their 
>> >> lives
>> >> free of inexplicable religious bigotry. If you don't think you fall 
>> >> into
>> >> that category, then explain yourself. Otherwise worry about your own
>> >> failings before the perceived ones of others.
>>
>> > Sorry, mate, you're wrong on this one.
>> > There is sin.
>> > Sin is an infraction of the moral code; it is a social construct.
>>
>> I disagree. Some people would see me as sinful, I would just go with
>> immoral when I fall short of my own values.
>
> Which would gel with sin being the social construct.  It's a loaded
> word though.  Everyone has their own meaning and inferences, so I
> suggest we use other more concise words.

What would you suggest by way of alternatives?

I actually think that a great many people nowadays see "sin" no longer in 
strictly religious terms.  Eating a Mars bar or binging on double chocolate 
chip ice cream is regarded as "sinful", or fly-tipping your household 
rubbish.

Words are often loaded one way or another -- but that can and does change. 
Not too long ago, "gay" was a perfectly innocent cheerful word gambolling 
along the byways of the English language.  Ditto homosexuality: we may not 
find it particularly tasteful when having our faces thrust in it, but most 
of us no longer regard this sexual orientation as a sin in either the 
religious or the secular sense.
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From: "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk>
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Subject: Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 18:33:34 +0100
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