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Article #11965Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: Alex W.
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 17:33
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 17:33
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"Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)" <alwhipp@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message news:0e62a809-81a3-4f16-a6d5-fb09b5f8ccb8@p10g2000prf.googlegroups.com... > On Jul 24, 5:56 am, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote: >> Alex W. wrote: >> > "BuddyThunder" <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote in message >> >news:48864044$1@clear.net.nz... >> >> >> There is no sin. It's a silly idea that you haven't been able to back >> >> up >> >> at all. I just believe that people should be free to go about their >> >> lives >> >> free of inexplicable religious bigotry. If you don't think you fall >> >> into >> >> that category, then explain yourself. Otherwise worry about your own >> >> failings before the perceived ones of others. >> >> > Sorry, mate, you're wrong on this one. >> > There is sin. >> > Sin is an infraction of the moral code; it is a social construct. >> >> I disagree. Some people would see me as sinful, I would just go with >> immoral when I fall short of my own values. > > Which would gel with sin being the social construct. It's a loaded > word though. Everyone has their own meaning and inferences, so I > suggest we use other more concise words. What would you suggest by way of alternatives? I actually think that a great many people nowadays see "sin" no longer in strictly religious terms. Eating a Mars bar or binging on double chocolate chip ice cream is regarded as "sinful", or fly-tipping your household rubbish. Words are often loaded one way or another -- but that can and does change. Not too long ago, "gay" was a perfectly innocent cheerful word gambolling along the byways of the English language. Ditto homosexuality: we may not find it particularly tasteful when having our faces thrust in it, but most of us no longer regard this sexual orientation as a sin in either the religious or the secular sense.
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