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rbwinn wrote:
> On Jul 20, 11:51 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
>> rbwinn wrote:
>>> On Jul 20, 2:17 pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)"
>>> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>>>> On Jul 19, 3:31 am, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Jul 18, 5:48 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 6:51 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 5:45 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 5:31 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 16, 8:36 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 16, 1:04 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 15, 1:21 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 14, 8:43�pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 15, 1:40 am, ben_dolan_...@reet.com (Ben Dolan) wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al) <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 14, 2:54 pm, ben_dolan_...@reet.com (Ben Dolan) wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you for your analysis, Peter. �I was merely expanding on a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> statement from an atheist to show where it was leading: �Atheists do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not believe anything.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's not true, we believe you're a fuckin' moron... We even have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> evidence!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm going to take that as an article of faith. �The evidence isn't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> compelling. �We do have evidence that he's a liar. �So he could be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> acting incredibly stupid, or more likely be stupid, it's impossible to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tell. �But the evidence for lies is overwhelming.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, we believe he's as stupid as dog shit. �But we have evidence, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thus no need of faith, that he's a liar.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I understand your point, but I believe we have overwhelming evidence of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> both. Bobby is a classic newsgroup troll who desparately craves
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> attention. Lying is an excellent way to get attention, although it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> normally means suffering considerable ridicule and insult in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> process.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But I also believe he's rather unintelligent (as most newsgroup trolls
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tend to be). He has shown a remarkable inability to absorb and integrate
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> new information presented to him. There's no indication he reads
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything outside of the few newsgroups he spends countless hours posting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in. And he has shown a breathtaking lack of self awareness and maturity,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whether about his ridiculous physics kookiness or his puerile religious
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nonsense. Taken together these point to someone suffering from mental
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> illness combined with a serious cognitive impairment, or as I prefer to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think of it, he's a fuckin' moron...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OK, I'll agree it's a good summary.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Al- Hide quoted text -
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Profanity is the attempt of a weak mind to make a strong statement,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Al.  You are agreeing with someone who has a weak mind.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Being upset about a select set of simple sounds is strange to me.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Profanity is such a non-issue for grown-ups, I'm far more interested in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the ideas conveyed by the words. You're using the profanity to ignore
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You do not have a point.  You are using various ideas as an excuse to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> use profanity.   It would be more honest to just leave out the ideas
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and have the profanity by itself.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What an odd idea. I don't believe profanity needs an excuse, it's simply
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a language feature that can be leveraged just like any other.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The idea is still conveyed, often more forcefully. If it makes you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> uncomfortable and lets you avoid the point being made, then I'd have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thought you'd have been grateful for the "out"!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How is being profane dishonest?
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, not quite normal.  I get tired of atheists who can be totally
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unprofane except when they are talking to me.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Take it somewhere else.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Would you like some cheese with that whine?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you don't like how atheists are talking to you, you can certainly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> snip our newsgroup out of your headers.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The behavior of atheists can be changed.  I just go ahead and change
>>>>>>>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Pride is a sin.
>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, that is correct.
>>>>>>>>>> So, you just sinned.
>>>>>>>>> In what way did I sin?
>>>>>>>> Imagining that you have the ability to change atheists.  The sin?  Pride.
>>>>>>> I do not imagine anything.  I just do things.
>>>>>> Sorry, but you're still imagining.  Name me one atheist that you've
>>>>>> "changed".
>>>>> All atheists with whom I have spoken have changed.
>>>>> Robert B. Winn
>>>> Yes.  They all now have an abiding distrust of anything a christian
>>>> says.
>>>> Al- Hide quoted text -
>>> Well, no, Al, they see the problem with atheism.  Remember, Al, the
>>> principle of repentance is available to atheists the same as everyone
>>> else.
>> What problem with atheism?- Hide quoted text -
>>
> Atheists deny the existence of God and Jesus Christ.

How's that a problem?