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From: BuddyThunder
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 20:06
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 20:06
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rbwinn wrote: > On Jul 20, 11:57 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote: >> Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al) wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >>> On Jul 21, 12:51 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: >>>> On Jul 20, 2:53 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: >>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>> On Jul 20, 10:00 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: >>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>> On Jul 20, 6:34�am, Stan-O <bndsna...@aol.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 22:27:44 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, a couple of atheists have told me that. ?They said he was a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Russian Orthodox and an alcoholic. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He was an alcoholic. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, you're making things up again. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hint: He was not a Christian merely because an atheist claimed he was... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hint #2: ?What school did Stalin go to in 1888? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stalin went to a Russian Orthodox seminary. ?He rejected what he was >>>>>>>>>>>>>> taught there and became a mass murderer. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Only partially true. Like I told you before, politicians, and in >>>>>>>>>>>>> particular tyrants, will say anything to gain or remain in power. >>>>>>>>>>>> Well, Stalin did say he was an atheist. ?He told the truth about that. >>>>>>>>>>> He never openly admitted this. In fact, his religious beliefs were >>>>>>>>>>> pretty vague. What he hated was the concept of god as presented by the >>>>>>>>>>> ROC. He did, however, find a political use for the church when it >>>>>>>>>>> suited his purpose.- Hide quoted text - >>>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text - >>>>>>>>>> That is quite a statement. �So you are saying that Stalin did not >>>>>>>>>> believe in the Communist Manifesto? >>>>>>>>> Tyrants will use or believe anything to maintain their control. He >>>>>>>>> probably found some parts useful, and ignored anything that >>>>>>>>> contradicted his personally ideologies...pretty much the same with you >>>>>>>>> and your bible...- Hide quoted text - >>>>>>>> Stalin tried to stamp out religion in the Soviet Union. It is well >>>>>>>> documented. >>>>>>> And what's that got to do with atheism? >>>>>> Stalin was a prominent atheist of his time who is claimed to have been >>>>>> a Christian by atheists of today. >>>>> Don't change the subject. What has what Stalin tried to do relevant to >>>>> atheism? >>>>> -- >>>> So what is the matter? Stalin and Pol Pot were atheists. They will >>>> never turn into Christians no matter how many times you try to claim >>>> they were. >>>> Don't you atheists ever take responsibility for anything? >>>> Robert B. Winn >>> Yes. Personal responsibility. I'm not Pol Pot, nor am I Joseph >>> Stalin. Nor do they represent normal atheists. >>> If you want to take responsibility for all crimes committed by >>> religious people, feel free. There's plenty butchers in that camp. >> Exactly, I never really understood the smear campaigns. I am only >> responsible for my own actions, a responsibility I happily accept. I >> cannot be held responsible for atrocities committed before I was born, >> no matter how similar the perp's worldview is to mine. >> >> I've never killed anyone, and I don't intend to.- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > > That is very commendable. Pol Pot was just an unassuming person also > until he became a Communist dictator. It didn't work with Joseph Stalin, it won't work with Pol Pot. You are religiously insane. I won't compare you to any historical figure, as it's pointless and irrelevant. I'll just state the assertion and cite this thread as evidence.
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