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Re: Does God need to prove He exists?

#12006
From: rbwinn
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 03:43
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On Jul 21, 7:28 pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)"
<alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> On Jul 21, 11:49 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
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> > On Jul 21, 12:09 am, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
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> > > rbwinn wrote:
> > > > On Jul 20, 1:05 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
> > > >> rbwinn wrote:
> > > >>> On Jul 20, 3:29 am, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
> > > >>>> rbwinn wrote:
> > > >>>>> On Jul 19, 7:19 am, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
> > > >>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> > > >>>>>>> On Jul 18, 8:13 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>> On Jul 18, 4:06 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 6:47 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 5:43 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 5:26 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 16, 7:24 pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)"
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 12:09 am, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 15, 1:25�am, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>news:c6ff2090-3c5f-4de6-97bf-0641d818d2e2@l64g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When are you going to admit you're a satanist, bobbie?
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have never been involved in atheism.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Satanism is a faith.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is not a subset of atheism.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve O
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, atheism is a cult of people who say, We do not believe in
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> following anything., who follow Satan around.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, Christian are those that say they follow a god of love, who in
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fact follow one of the most evil deities of all history.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Al- Hide quoted text -
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Exactly which teachings of Jesus Christ do you find to be evil?
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, you think that Christians ONLY follow the teachings of Jesus?  What,
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for example, did Jesus say about homosexuality?
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He said to repent from any sins.  That would include homosexuality.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Homosexuality isn't a sin.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, what did Jesus say about homosexuality?
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Jesus Christ said that repentance from any sin is necessary before the
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> person can enter heaven.  That includes the sin of homosexuality.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> But homosexuality is not a sin.  Unless you can find where it says that
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> it is.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Homosexuality is a sin regardless of what I do.  There is no one on
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> earth who cannot tell that homosexuality is a sin.
> > > >>>>>>>>>> I'm on the Earth, and I have no problem with gay people. What they do in
> > > >>>>>>>>>> the privacy of their homes doesn't impact on me one iota. Why on Earth
> > > >>>>>>>>>> would I have a problem with homosexuals?- Hide quoted text -
> > > >>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
> > > >>>>>>>>> I did not say you had a problem.  I said that you are able to tell
> > > >>>>>>>>> that homosexuality is a sin.   If you say you cannot tell it is a sin,
> > > >>>>>>>>> you are not telling the truth.
> > > >>>>>>>> I don't even subscribe to the concept of sin, so no I don't think it
> > > >>>>>>>> sinful. You may think it wrong, I don't. I can't think of any reason I
> > > >>>>>>>> would.- Hide quoted text -
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> > > >>>>>>> Well, you would not think of it as sin when your fellow atheist Josef
> > > >>>>>>> Stalin killed 12 million people.  He was just born that way like
> > > >>>>>>> homosexuals are, right?
> > > >>>>>> Immoral behaviour exists quite apart from "sin" outside your wacky myths.
> > > >>>>>> You will note that we're not all killing peasants left, right and centre.- Hide quoted text -
> > > >>>>> Homosexuality is immoral behavior.  So is killing 12 million people.
> > > >>>> Why shouldn't I like homosexuals? I don't have any reason not to.- Hide quoted text -
> > > >>> It does not matter if you like or dislike homosexuals. Homosexuality
> > > >>> will remain a sin.
> > > >> What a silly idea. And apparently indefensible. Isn't it lucky that
> > > >> church and state are supposed to be separate.- Hide quoted text -
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> > > >> - Show quoted text -
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> > > > So as I understand it, you are saying that only atheists and
> > > > homosexuals are allowed to participate in government.
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> > > Well, your understanding is shown to be faulty again.
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> > > I was saying that it's lucky that religious belief (theoretically) must
> > > stay out of public policy. Keeps the religious bigots out, and secures
> > > the best deal for the widest range of citizenry.
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> > > Theocracies seem like no fun to me!- Hide quoted text -
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> > So why are you trying to set up a theocracy with atheism as the state
> > religion?
> > Robert B. Winn
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> So why would you want to label everything not perfectly in line with
> your personal delusions "atheist"?  Would it be so you can demonise
> others to help your non-sociopathic brain deal with them as if you
> were in fact sociopathic?
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> Al- Hide quoted text -
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I just call an atheist an atheist.  So are you trying to say that you
are not an atheist, Al?
Robert B. Winn
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From: rbwinn <rbwinn3@juno.com>
Newsgroups: sci.physics,cam.misc,alt.sci.physics,alt.atheism
Subject: Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 20:43:31 -0700 (PDT)
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