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On Jul 21, 7:33 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> rbwinn wrote:
> > On Jul 21, 6:38 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >> rbwinn wrote:
> >>> On Jul 20, 7:54 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>> On Jul 20, 2:53 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Jul 20, 10:00 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On Jul 20, 6:34�am, Stan-O <bndsna...@aol.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 22:27:44 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com>
> >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, a couple of atheists have told me that. ?They said he was a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Russian Orthodox and an alcoholic.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He was an alcoholic.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, you're making things up again.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hint: He was not a Christian merely because an atheist claimed he was...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hint #2: ?What school did Stalin go to in 1888?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stalin went to a Russian Orthodox seminary. ?He rejected what he was
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> taught there and became a mass murderer.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Only partially true. Like I told you before, politicians, and in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> particular tyrants, will say anything to gain or remain in power.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, Stalin did say he was an atheist. ?He told the truth about that.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> He never openly admitted this. In fact, his religious beliefs were
> >>>>>>>>>>>> pretty vague. What he hated was the concept of god as presented by the
> >>>>>>>>>>>> ROC. He did, however, find a political use for the church when it
> >>>>>>>>>>>> suited his purpose.- Hide quoted text -
> >>>>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
> >>>>>>>>>>> That is quite a statement. �So you are saying that Stalin did not
> >>>>>>>>>>> believe in the Communist Manifesto?
> >>>>>>>>>> Tyrants will use or believe anything to maintain their control. He
> >>>>>>>>>> probably found some parts useful, and ignored anything that
> >>>>>>>>>> contradicted his personally ideologies...pretty much the same with you
> >>>>>>>>>> and your bible...- Hide quoted text -
> >>>>>>>>> Stalin tried to stamp out religion in the Soviet Union.  It is well
> >>>>>>>>> documented.
> >>>>>>>> And what's that got to do with atheism?
> >>>>>>> Stalin was a prominent atheist of his time who is claimed to have been
> >>>>>>> a Christian by atheists of today.
> >>>>>> Don't change the subject.  What has what Stalin tried to do relevant to
> >>>>>> atheism?
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>> So what is the matter?  Stalin and Pol Pot were atheists.  They will
> >>>>> never turn into Christians no matter how many times you try to claim
> >>>>> they were.
> >>>>> Don't you atheists ever take responsibility for anything?
> >>>> Because what they did is irrelevant to me?  Now, back onto the question
> >>>> you are REFUSING to answer:
> >>>> What has what Stalin tried to do ("tried to stamp out religion in the
> >>>> Soviet Union") relevant to atheism?
> >>>> --
> >>> It is relevant to atheism because Stalin was an atheist.
> >> So, is it also relevant to masculinity?  Stalin was a man, after all...
> >>   Stalin also had a mustache.  Is that relevant, too?
>
> >> Oh, Stalin was also born in December.  Is that relevant?
> >> Stalin married a wife.  Is that relevant?
>
> > Why don't you just decide for yourself what you think is relevant,
> > Daniel?
>
> How about none of it being relevant?

Well, you get to decide for yourself.  Don't be bashful.
Robert B. Winn