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Article #12115Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: DanielSan
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 12:21
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 12:21
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rbwinn wrote: > On Jul 21, 12:00 am, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote: >> rbwinn wrote: >>> On Jul 20, 1:00 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote: >>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>> On Jul 20, 3:30 am, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote: >>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>> On Jul 19, 8:49 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: >>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>> On Jul 19, 7:19 am, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 18, 8:13 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 18, 4:06 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 6:47 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 5:43 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 5:26 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 16, 7:24 pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 12:09 am, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 15, 1:25�am, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:c6ff2090-3c5f-4de6-97bf-0641d818d2e2@l64g2000hse.googlegroups.com... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When are you going to admit you're a satanist, bobbie? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have never been involved in atheism. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Satanism is a faith. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is not a subset of atheism. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve O >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, atheism is a cult of people who say, We do not believe in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> following anything., who follow Satan around. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, Christian are those that say they follow a god of love, who in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fact follow one of the most evil deities of all history. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Al- Hide quoted text - >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Exactly which teachings of Jesus Christ do you find to be evil? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, you think that Christians ONLY follow the teachings of Jesus? What, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for example, did Jesus say about homosexuality? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He said to repent from any sins. That would include homosexuality. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Homosexuality isn't a sin. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, what did Jesus say about homosexuality? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jesus Christ said that repentance from any sin is necessary before the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> person can enter heaven. That includes the sin of homosexuality. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But homosexuality is not a sin. Unless you can find where it says that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it is. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Homosexuality is a sin regardless of what I do. There is no one on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> earth who cannot tell that homosexuality is a sin. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm on the Earth, and I have no problem with gay people. What they do in >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the privacy of their homes doesn't impact on me one iota. Why on Earth >>>>>>>>>>>>>> would I have a problem with homosexuals?- Hide quoted text - >>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text - >>>>>>>>>>>>> I did not say you had a problem. I said that you are able to tell >>>>>>>>>>>>> that homosexuality is a sin. If you say you cannot tell it is a sin, >>>>>>>>>>>>> you are not telling the truth. >>>>>>>>>>>> I don't even subscribe to the concept of sin, so no I don't think it >>>>>>>>>>>> sinful. You may think it wrong, I don't. I can't think of any reason I >>>>>>>>>>>> would.- Hide quoted text - >>>>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text - >>>>>>>>>>> Well, you would not think of it as sin when your fellow atheist Josef >>>>>>>>>>> Stalin killed 12 million people. He was just born that way like >>>>>>>>>>> homosexuals are, right? >>>>>>>>>> Immoral behaviour exists quite apart from "sin" outside your wacky myths. >>>>>>>>>> You will note that we're not all killing peasants left, right and centre.- Hide quoted text - >>>>>>>>> Homosexuality is immoral behavior. So is killing 12 million people. >>>>>>>> Homosexuality is not immoral. >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Josef Stalin said that killing 12 million people was not immoral. >>>>>> What kind of argument is that? Are you equivocating slaughter with >>>>>> homosexuality?- Hide quoted text - >>>>> What is your question supposed to mean? Equivocate does not mean to >>>>> set something equal to something else. This is a typical atheist >>>>> question. You people think you can change the world by asking >>>>> ambiguous questions. >>>> I didn't understand your link between Joseph Stalin and being gay. I was >>>> aksing for clarification. If you're not able to provide it...- Hide quoted text - >>>> - Show quoted text - >>> The conversation about this particular link between Josef Stalin and >>> homosexuals began when an atheist said he did not have sins because he >>> did not believe in sin. I said that Josef Stalin had felt the same >>> way when he killed 12 million people because he was an atheist and did >>> not believe in sin either. Then homosexuals came into the >>> conversation because atheists were saying that homosexuality was not a >>> sin. So the common thread in all this seems to be atheism. >> What does Joseph Stalin's crimes have to do with any of us. I don't >> believe in sin, and I've never slaughtered anyone. How is that example >> remotely releveant? >> >> I still have no sensible reason to regard homosexuality as immoral. I >> know many in your religion don't like it, but no gay person ever did me >> any harm.- Hide quoted text - >> > Well, what harm did Josef Stalin do to you? Her certainly was ahead > of his time with regard to population control, something that atheists > of today are all concerned about. No. -- ****************************************************** * DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226 * *----------------------------------------------------* * "I distrust those people who know so well what God * * wants them to do because I notice it always * * coincides with their own desires." * * --Susan B. Anthony * ******************************************************
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