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Article #12116Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: rbwinn
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 13:22
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 13:22
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On Jul 20, 3:05 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > rbwinn wrote: > > On Jul 20, 10:19 am, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote: > >> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message > > >>news:d56410cf-c39e-4de7-9b1a-51ae24806393@56g2000hsm.googlegroups.com... > > >>> On Jul 20, 3:35 am, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote: > >>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>> On Jul 19, 8:49 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > >>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>> On Jul 19, 7:19 am, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote: > >>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>>>> On Jul 18, 8:13 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 18, 4:06 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 6:47 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 5:43 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 5:26 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 16, 7:24 pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)" > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 12:09 am, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 15, 1:25�am, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>news:c6ff2090-3c5f-4de6-97bf-0641d818d2e2@l64g2000hse.googlegroups.com... > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When are you going to admit you're a satanist, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bobbie? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have never been involved in atheism. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Satanism is a faith. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is not a subset of atheism. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve O > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, atheism is a cult of people who say, We do not > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> believe in > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> following anything., who follow Satan around. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, Christian are those that say they follow a god of > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> love, who in > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fact follow one of the most evil deities of all history. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Al- Hide quoted text - > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Exactly which teachings of Jesus Christ do you find to be > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> evil? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, you think that Christians ONLY follow the teachings of > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jesus? What, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for example, did Jesus say about homosexuality? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He said to repent from any sins. That would include > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> homosexuality. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Homosexuality isn't a sin. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, what did Jesus say about homosexuality? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jesus Christ said that repentance from any sin is necessary > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> before the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> person can enter heaven. That includes the sin of > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> homosexuality. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> But homosexuality is not a sin. Unless you can find where it > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> says that > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> it is. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Homosexuality is a sin regardless of what I do. There is no one > >>>>>>>>>>>>> on > >>>>>>>>>>>>> earth who cannot tell that homosexuality is a sin. > >>>>>>>>>>>> I'm on the Earth, and I have no problem with gay people. What > >>>>>>>>>>>> they do in > >>>>>>>>>>>> the privacy of their homes doesn't impact on me one iota. Why on > >>>>>>>>>>>> Earth > >>>>>>>>>>>> would I have a problem with homosexuals?- Hide quoted text - > >>>>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text - > >>>>>>>>>>> I did not say you had a problem. I said that you are able to tell > >>>>>>>>>>> that homosexuality is a sin. If you say you cannot tell it is a > >>>>>>>>>>> sin, > >>>>>>>>>>> you are not telling the truth. > >>>>>>>>>> I don't even subscribe to the concept of sin, so no I don't think > >>>>>>>>>> it > >>>>>>>>>> sinful. You may think it wrong, I don't. I can't think of any > >>>>>>>>>> reason I > >>>>>>>>>> would.- Hide quoted text - > >>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text - > >>>>>>>>> Well, you would not think of it as sin when your fellow atheist > >>>>>>>>> Josef > >>>>>>>>> Stalin killed 12 million people. He was just born that way like > >>>>>>>>> homosexuals are, right? > >>>>>>>> Immoral behaviour exists quite apart from "sin" outside your wacky > >>>>>>>> myths. > >>>>>>>> You will note that we're not all killing peasants left, right and > >>>>>>>> centre.- Hide quoted text - > >>>>>>> Homosexuality is immoral behavior. So is killing 12 million people. > >>>>>> Homosexuality is not immoral. > >>>>> Explain it to Jesus Christ. It does not have anything to do with me. > >>>> This is a neat trick. > >>>> Your religion has allowed you to disavow any responsibility for your > >>>> bigotry. > >>>> ...and because it's a religious opinion, it automatically gets more > >>>> respect than it deserves. > >>>> You can hold the vilest of opinions, and never have to back them up at > >>>> all. > >>>> Genius!- Hide quoted text - > >> That's how religion works. > >> It gives people excuses to behave atrociously, all in the name of God. > >> So immoral. > > >>> If you do not like it, complain to Jesus Christ. He told us to stay > >>> out of homosexuality. > >>> Robert B. Winn > >> Please quote the part of the New Testament where he does that. > >> Or go back and read your bible properly. > > > Matthew 7:21` Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall > > enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my > > Father which is in heaven. > > Sorry, but I see nothing there that says that Jesus tells us to "stay > out of homosexuality". Well, then find out for yourself if it means to stay out of homosexuality. Robert B. Winn
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