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Re: Does God need to prove He exists?

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From: rbwinn
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 13:22
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On Jul 20, 3:05 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> rbwinn wrote:
> > On Jul 20, 10:19 am, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote:
> >> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
>
> >>news:d56410cf-c39e-4de7-9b1a-51ae24806393@56g2000hsm.googlegroups.com...
>
> >>> On Jul 20, 3:35 am, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
> >>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>> On Jul 19, 8:49 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Jul 19, 7:19 am, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On Jul 18, 8:13 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 18, 4:06 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 6:47 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 5:43 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 5:26 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 16, 7:24 pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)"
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 12:09 am, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 15, 1:25�am, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>news:c6ff2090-3c5f-4de6-97bf-0641d818d2e2@l64g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When are you going to admit you're a satanist,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bobbie?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have never been involved in atheism.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Satanism is a faith.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is not a subset of atheism.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve O
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, atheism is a cult of people who say, We do not
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> believe in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> following anything., who follow Satan around.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, Christian are those that say they follow a god of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> love, who in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fact follow one of the most evil deities of all history.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Al- Hide quoted text -
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Exactly which teachings of Jesus Christ do you find to be
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> evil?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, you think that Christians ONLY follow the teachings of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jesus? What,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for example, did Jesus say about homosexuality?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He said to repent from any sins. That would include
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> homosexuality.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Homosexuality isn't a sin.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, what did Jesus say about homosexuality?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jesus Christ said that repentance from any sin is necessary
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> before the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> person can enter heaven. That includes the sin of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> homosexuality.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> But homosexuality is not a sin. Unless you can find where it
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> says that
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> it is.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Homosexuality is a sin regardless of what I do. There is no one
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> on
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> earth who cannot tell that homosexuality is a sin.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> I'm on the Earth, and I have no problem with gay people. What
> >>>>>>>>>>>> they do in
> >>>>>>>>>>>> the privacy of their homes doesn't impact on me one iota. Why on
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Earth
> >>>>>>>>>>>> would I have a problem with homosexuals?- Hide quoted text -
> >>>>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
> >>>>>>>>>>> I did not say you had a problem. I said that you are able to tell
> >>>>>>>>>>> that homosexuality is a sin. If you say you cannot tell it is a
> >>>>>>>>>>> sin,
> >>>>>>>>>>> you are not telling the truth.
> >>>>>>>>>> I don't even subscribe to the concept of sin, so no I don't think
> >>>>>>>>>> it
> >>>>>>>>>> sinful. You may think it wrong, I don't. I can't think of any
> >>>>>>>>>> reason I
> >>>>>>>>>> would.- Hide quoted text -
> >>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
> >>>>>>>>> Well, you would not think of it as sin when your fellow atheist
> >>>>>>>>> Josef
> >>>>>>>>> Stalin killed 12 million people. He was just born that way like
> >>>>>>>>> homosexuals are, right?
> >>>>>>>> Immoral behaviour exists quite apart from "sin" outside your wacky
> >>>>>>>> myths.
> >>>>>>>> You will note that we're not all killing peasants left, right and
> >>>>>>>> centre.- Hide quoted text -
> >>>>>>> Homosexuality is immoral behavior. So is killing 12 million people.
> >>>>>> Homosexuality is not immoral.
> >>>>> Explain it to Jesus Christ. It does not have anything to do with me.
> >>>> This is a neat trick.
> >>>> Your religion has allowed you to disavow any responsibility for your
> >>>> bigotry.
> >>>> ...and because it's a religious opinion, it automatically gets more
> >>>> respect than it deserves.
> >>>> You can hold the vilest of opinions, and never have to back them up at
> >>>> all.
> >>>> Genius!- Hide quoted text -
> >> That's how religion works.
> >> It gives people excuses to behave atrociously, all in the name of God.
> >> So immoral.
>
> >>> If you do not like it, complain to Jesus Christ.  He told us to stay
> >>> out of homosexuality.
> >>> Robert B. Winn
> >> Please quote the part of the New Testament where he does that.
> >> Or go back and read your bible properly.
>
> > Matthew 7:21`  Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall
> > enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my
> > Father which is in heaven.
>
> Sorry, but I see nothing there that says that Jesus tells us to "stay
> out of homosexuality".

Well, then find out for yourself if it means to stay out of
homosexuality.
Robert B. Winn
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From: rbwinn <rbwinn3@juno.com>
Newsgroups: sci.physics,cam.misc,alt.sci.physics,alt.atheism
Subject: Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 06:22:32 -0700 (PDT)
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