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Article #12117Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: DanielSan
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 13:24
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 13:24
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rbwinn wrote: > On Jul 20, 3:05 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: >> rbwinn wrote: >>> On Jul 20, 10:19 am, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote: >>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message >>>> news:d56410cf-c39e-4de7-9b1a-51ae24806393@56g2000hsm.googlegroups.com... >>>>> On Jul 20, 3:35 am, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote: >>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>> On Jul 19, 8:49 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: >>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>> On Jul 19, 7:19 am, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 18, 8:13 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 18, 4:06 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 6:47 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 5:43 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 5:26 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 16, 7:24 pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 12:09 am, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 15, 1:25�am, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:c6ff2090-3c5f-4de6-97bf-0641d818d2e2@l64g2000hse.googlegroups.com... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When are you going to admit you're a satanist, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bobbie? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have never been involved in atheism. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Satanism is a faith. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is not a subset of atheism. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve O >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, atheism is a cult of people who say, We do not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> believe in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> following anything., who follow Satan around. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, Christian are those that say they follow a god of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> love, who in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fact follow one of the most evil deities of all history. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Al- Hide quoted text - >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Exactly which teachings of Jesus Christ do you find to be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> evil? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, you think that Christians ONLY follow the teachings of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jesus? What, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for example, did Jesus say about homosexuality? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He said to repent from any sins. That would include >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> homosexuality. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Homosexuality isn't a sin. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, what did Jesus say about homosexuality? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jesus Christ said that repentance from any sin is necessary >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> before the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> person can enter heaven. That includes the sin of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> homosexuality. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But homosexuality is not a sin. Unless you can find where it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> says that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it is. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Homosexuality is a sin regardless of what I do. There is no one >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> earth who cannot tell that homosexuality is a sin. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm on the Earth, and I have no problem with gay people. What >>>>>>>>>>>>>> they do in >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the privacy of their homes doesn't impact on me one iota. Why on >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Earth >>>>>>>>>>>>>> would I have a problem with homosexuals?- Hide quoted text - >>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text - >>>>>>>>>>>>> I did not say you had a problem. I said that you are able to tell >>>>>>>>>>>>> that homosexuality is a sin. If you say you cannot tell it is a >>>>>>>>>>>>> sin, >>>>>>>>>>>>> you are not telling the truth. >>>>>>>>>>>> I don't even subscribe to the concept of sin, so no I don't think >>>>>>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>>>>>> sinful. You may think it wrong, I don't. I can't think of any >>>>>>>>>>>> reason I >>>>>>>>>>>> would.- Hide quoted text - >>>>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text - >>>>>>>>>>> Well, you would not think of it as sin when your fellow atheist >>>>>>>>>>> Josef >>>>>>>>>>> Stalin killed 12 million people. He was just born that way like >>>>>>>>>>> homosexuals are, right? >>>>>>>>>> Immoral behaviour exists quite apart from "sin" outside your wacky >>>>>>>>>> myths. >>>>>>>>>> You will note that we're not all killing peasants left, right and >>>>>>>>>> centre.- Hide quoted text - >>>>>>>>> Homosexuality is immoral behavior. So is killing 12 million people. >>>>>>>> Homosexuality is not immoral. >>>>>>> Explain it to Jesus Christ. It does not have anything to do with me. >>>>>> This is a neat trick. >>>>>> Your religion has allowed you to disavow any responsibility for your >>>>>> bigotry. >>>>>> ...and because it's a religious opinion, it automatically gets more >>>>>> respect than it deserves. >>>>>> You can hold the vilest of opinions, and never have to back them up at >>>>>> all. >>>>>> Genius!- Hide quoted text - >>>> That's how religion works. >>>> It gives people excuses to behave atrociously, all in the name of God. >>>> So immoral. >>>>> If you do not like it, complain to Jesus Christ. He told us to stay >>>>> out of homosexuality. >>>>> Robert B. Winn >>>> Please quote the part of the New Testament where he does that. >>>> Or go back and read your bible properly. >>> Matthew 7:21` Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall >>> enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my >>> Father which is in heaven. >> Sorry, but I see nothing there that says that Jesus tells us to "stay >> out of homosexuality". > > Well, then find out for yourself if it means to stay out of > homosexuality. How would I go about doing that? -- ****************************************************** * DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226 * *----------------------------------------------------* * "I distrust those people who know so well what God * * wants them to do because I notice it always * * coincides with their own desires." * * --Susan B. Anthony * ******************************************************
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