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Re: Does God need to prove He exists?

#12117
From: DanielSan
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 13:24
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rbwinn wrote:
> On Jul 20, 3:05 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>> rbwinn wrote:
>>> On Jul 20, 10:19 am, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote:
>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:d56410cf-c39e-4de7-9b1a-51ae24806393@56g2000hsm.googlegroups.com...
>>>>> On Jul 20, 3:35 am, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>> On Jul 19, 8:49 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Jul 19, 7:19 am, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 18, 8:13 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 18, 4:06 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 6:47 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 5:43 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 5:26 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 16, 7:24 pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 12:09 am, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 15, 1:25�am, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:c6ff2090-3c5f-4de6-97bf-0641d818d2e2@l64g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When are you going to admit you're a satanist,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bobbie?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have never been involved in atheism.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Satanism is a faith.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is not a subset of atheism.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve O
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, atheism is a cult of people who say, We do not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> believe in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> following anything., who follow Satan around.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, Christian are those that say they follow a god of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> love, who in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fact follow one of the most evil deities of all history.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Al- Hide quoted text -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Exactly which teachings of Jesus Christ do you find to be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> evil?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, you think that Christians ONLY follow the teachings of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jesus? What,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for example, did Jesus say about homosexuality?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He said to repent from any sins. That would include
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> homosexuality.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Homosexuality isn't a sin.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, what did Jesus say about homosexuality?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jesus Christ said that repentance from any sin is necessary
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> before the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> person can enter heaven. That includes the sin of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> homosexuality.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But homosexuality is not a sin. Unless you can find where it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> says that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it is.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Homosexuality is a sin regardless of what I do. There is no one
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> earth who cannot tell that homosexuality is a sin.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm on the Earth, and I have no problem with gay people. What
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they do in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the privacy of their homes doesn't impact on me one iota. Why on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Earth
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would I have a problem with homosexuals?- Hide quoted text -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I did not say you had a problem. I said that you are able to tell
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that homosexuality is a sin. If you say you cannot tell it is a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> sin,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> you are not telling the truth.
>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't even subscribe to the concept of sin, so no I don't think
>>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>> sinful. You may think it wrong, I don't. I can't think of any
>>>>>>>>>>>> reason I
>>>>>>>>>>>> would.- Hide quoted text -
>>>>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>>>>>>>>>> Well, you would not think of it as sin when your fellow atheist
>>>>>>>>>>> Josef
>>>>>>>>>>> Stalin killed 12 million people. He was just born that way like
>>>>>>>>>>> homosexuals are, right?
>>>>>>>>>> Immoral behaviour exists quite apart from "sin" outside your wacky
>>>>>>>>>> myths.
>>>>>>>>>> You will note that we're not all killing peasants left, right and
>>>>>>>>>> centre.- Hide quoted text -
>>>>>>>>> Homosexuality is immoral behavior. So is killing 12 million people.
>>>>>>>> Homosexuality is not immoral.
>>>>>>> Explain it to Jesus Christ. It does not have anything to do with me.
>>>>>> This is a neat trick.
>>>>>> Your religion has allowed you to disavow any responsibility for your
>>>>>> bigotry.
>>>>>> ...and because it's a religious opinion, it automatically gets more
>>>>>> respect than it deserves.
>>>>>> You can hold the vilest of opinions, and never have to back them up at
>>>>>> all.
>>>>>> Genius!- Hide quoted text -
>>>> That's how religion works.
>>>> It gives people excuses to behave atrociously, all in the name of God.
>>>> So immoral.
>>>>> If you do not like it, complain to Jesus Christ.  He told us to stay
>>>>> out of homosexuality.
>>>>> Robert B. Winn
>>>> Please quote the part of the New Testament where he does that.
>>>> Or go back and read your bible properly.
>>> Matthew 7:21`  Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall
>>> enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my
>>> Father which is in heaven.
>> Sorry, but I see nothing there that says that Jesus tells us to "stay
>> out of homosexuality".
> 
> Well, then find out for yourself if it means to stay out of
> homosexuality.

How would I go about doing that?

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*          DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226            *
*----------------------------------------------------*
* "I distrust those people who know so well what God *
*  wants them to do because I notice it always       *
*  coincides with their own desires."                *
*                                 --Susan B. Anthony *
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