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Article #12139Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: rbwinn
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 02:28
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 02:28
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On Jul 20, 2:36 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > rbwinn wrote: > > On Jul 20, 9:54 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > >> rbwinn wrote: > >>> On Jul 20, 3:29 am, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote: > >>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>> On Jul 19, 7:19 am, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote: > >>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>> On Jul 18, 8:13 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote: > >>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>>>> On Jul 18, 4:06 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 6:47 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 5:43 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 5:26 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 16, 7:24 pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)" > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 12:09 am, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 15, 1:25�am, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>news:c6ff2090-3c5f-4de6-97bf-0641d818d2e2@l64g2000hse.googlegroups.com... > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When are you going to admit you're a satanist, bobbie? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have never been involved in atheism. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Satanism is a faith. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is not a subset of atheism. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve O > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, atheism is a cult of people who say, We do not believe in > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> following anything., who follow Satan around. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, Christian are those that say they follow a god of love, who in > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fact follow one of the most evil deities of all history. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Al- Hide quoted text - > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Exactly which teachings of Jesus Christ do you find to be evil? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, you think that Christians ONLY follow the teachings of Jesus? What, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for example, did Jesus say about homosexuality? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He said to repent from any sins. That would include homosexuality. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Homosexuality isn't a sin. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, what did Jesus say about homosexuality? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Jesus Christ said that repentance from any sin is necessary before the > >>>>>>>>>>>>> person can enter heaven. That includes the sin of homosexuality. > >>>>>>>>>>>> But homosexuality is not a sin. Unless you can find where it says that > >>>>>>>>>>>> it is. > >>>>>>>>>>> Homosexuality is a sin regardless of what I do. There is no one on > >>>>>>>>>>> earth who cannot tell that homosexuality is a sin. > >>>>>>>>>> I'm on the Earth, and I have no problem with gay people. What they do in > >>>>>>>>>> the privacy of their homes doesn't impact on me one iota. Why on Earth > >>>>>>>>>> would I have a problem with homosexuals?- Hide quoted text - > >>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text - > >>>>>>>>> I did not say you had a problem. I said that you are able to tell > >>>>>>>>> that homosexuality is a sin. If you say you cannot tell it is a sin, > >>>>>>>>> you are not telling the truth. > >>>>>>>> I don't even subscribe to the concept of sin, so no I don't think it > >>>>>>>> sinful. You may think it wrong, I don't. I can't think of any reason I > >>>>>>>> would.- Hide quoted text - > >>>>>>>> - Show quoted text - > >>>>>>> Well, you would not think of it as sin when your fellow atheist Josef > >>>>>>> Stalin killed 12 million people. He was just born that way like > >>>>>>> homosexuals are, right? > >>>>>> Immoral behaviour exists quite apart from "sin" outside your wacky myths. > >>>>>> You will note that we're not all killing peasants left, right and centre.- Hide quoted text - > >>>>> Homosexuality is immoral behavior. So is killing 12 million people. > >>>> Why shouldn't I like homosexuals? I don't have any reason not to.- Hide quoted text - > >>> It does not matter if you like or dislike homosexuals. Homosexuality > >>> will remain a sin. > >> No, it doesn't. Look, it sounds like you need to reread your Bible. > >> You don't even know what's sinful and what isn't. > > >> -- > > There is no one who cannot tell homosexuality is a sin, including the > > people who participate in it. > > Jesus certainly didn't say anything about homosexuality being a sin. > > -- You need to understand who Jesus Christ was. He plainly said that he was Jehovah, the God of the Old Testament. So he said what was in the Old Testament as well as what he said in the New Testament. Robert B. Winn
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