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Re: Does God need to prove He exists?

#12147
From: DanielSan
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 02:53
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rbwinn wrote:
> On Jul 20, 2:52 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>> rbwinn wrote:
>>> On Jul 20, 10:00 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>> On Jul 20, 6:29�am, Stan-O <bndsna...@aol.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 04:43:08 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Most of whom are 'beleivers' in one god or another.
>>>>>>>>>>> We've got one on trial over here at the moment. He shot a guy, then
>>>>>>>>>>> tried to decapitate two women with a katana. Apparently God told him to
>>>>>>>>>>> do it. Hopefully the jury disagrees.- Hide quoted text -
>>>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>>>>>>>>> Almost every murderer today says that because they know the atheistic
>>>>>>>>>> court system will reward them for saying it.
>>>>>>>>>> =================================
>>>>>>>>>> Why would an "atheistic court system" reward someone who claimed to believe
>>>>>>>>>> in gods, skippy?
>>>>>>>>> Lawyers reward anyone who adds to their power and financial security.
>>>>>>>> You've got a whole "reward" thing going on at the moment, why is that?- Hide quoted text -
>>>>>>> I do not have anything going at the present time. �Lawyers were the
>>>>>>> people who started "plea bargaining" and did away with the right to
>>>>>>> trial by jury.
>>>>>> That's odd, because my boss was just on a jury trial last month. I
>>>>>> guess that makes you a liar again, doesn't it?- Hide quoted text -
>>>>> No, it does not.  The right to trial by jury no longer exists.
>>>> Eh, wha?  Article 3 of the United States Constitution was repealed?
>>>>>  People
>>>>> who commit crimes serious enough to be profitable to lawyers are given
>>>>> the privilege of trial by jury.   That means if you commit a murder,
>>>>> you can have a lawyer and a trial by jury.  If you are arrested on
>>>>> misdemeanor charges by police who have decided to harrass you, you
>>>>> cannot get a trial by jury even though the Constitution guarantees you
>>>>> that right.
>>>> Um, no.  You might want to look up the difference between criminal and
>>>> civil charges...
>>>> --
>>> I do not need to look anything up.  Misdemeanors are crimes.  It says
>>> criminal complaint right on the complaint of a misdemeanor case.
>> Yes, the right to a jury trial, however, does not apply to petty offenses.
>>
>> See District of Columbia v. Clawans, 300 U.S. 617; Schick v. United
>> States, 195 U.S. 65; Frankfurter and Corcoran, 39 Harv.L.R. 917. Cf.
>> Rule 38(a) of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure [28 U.S.C., Appendix].
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/6mzu5p
>>
> Thank you for your research into case law.  Let me explain how case
> law applies to the Constitution of the United States.
> This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be
> made in pursuance thereof, and all Treaties made , or which shall be
> made, under authority of the United States, shall be the Supreme law
> of the land, and the judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any
> thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary
> notwithstanding.
> Amendment VI  In all criminal prosecutions the accused shall enjoy a
> speedy and public public trial by an impartial jury...
>     You atheists may not have noticed, but the Constitution can only
> be changed by amendment.
>       Your imposement of European laws through the Supreme Court is
> unlawful here in the United States.

Um, dude, check out the cites I mentioned.

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