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Article #12148Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: DanielSan
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 02:54
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 02:54
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rbwinn wrote:
> On Jul 20, 2:53 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>> rbwinn wrote:
>>> On Jul 20, 10:00 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>> On Jul 20, 6:34�am, Stan-O <bndsna...@aol.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 22:27:44 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, a couple of atheists have told me that. ?They said he was a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Russian Orthodox and an alcoholic.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> He was an alcoholic.
>>>>>>>>>>>> So, you're making things up again.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hint: He was not a Christian merely because an atheist claimed he was...
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hint #2: ?What school did Stalin go to in 1888?
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> Stalin went to a Russian Orthodox seminary. ?He rejected what he was
>>>>>>>>>>> taught there and became a mass murderer.
>>>>>>>>>> Only partially true. Like I told you before, politicians, and in
>>>>>>>>>> particular tyrants, will say anything to gain or remain in power.
>>>>>>>>> Well, Stalin did say he was an atheist. ?He told the truth about that.
>>>>>>>> He never openly admitted this. In fact, his religious beliefs were
>>>>>>>> pretty vague. What he hated was the concept of god as presented by the
>>>>>>>> ROC. He did, however, find a political use for the church when it
>>>>>>>> suited his purpose.- Hide quoted text -
>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>>>>>> That is quite a statement. �So you are saying that Stalin did not
>>>>>>> believe in the Communist Manifesto?
>>>>>> Tyrants will use or believe anything to maintain their control. He
>>>>>> probably found some parts useful, and ignored anything that
>>>>>> contradicted his personally ideologies...pretty much the same with you
>>>>>> and your bible...- Hide quoted text -
>>>>> Stalin tried to stamp out religion in the Soviet Union. It is well
>>>>> documented.
>>>> And what's that got to do with atheism?
>>> Stalin was a prominent atheist of his time who is claimed to have been
>>> a Christian by atheists of today.
>> Don't change the subject. What has what Stalin tried to do relevant to
>> atheism?
>>
>> --
> So what is the matter? Stalin and Pol Pot were atheists. They will
> never turn into Christians no matter how many times you try to claim
> they were.
> Don't you atheists ever take responsibility for anything?
Because what they did is irrelevant to me? Now, back onto the question
you are REFUSING to answer:
What has what Stalin tried to do ("tried to stamp out religion in the
Soviet Union") relevant to atheism?
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* DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226 *
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* "I distrust those people who know so well what God *
* wants them to do because I notice it always *
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* --Susan B. Anthony *
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