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rbwinn wrote:
> On Jul 20, 12:59 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
>> rbwinn wrote:
>>> On Jul 20, 3:25 am, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>> On Jul 19, 7:14 am, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>> On Jul 18, 8:09 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Jul 18, 2:40 am, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)"
>>>>>>>>> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 10:23 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 16, 7:43 pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)"
>>>>>>>>>>> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 5:36 am, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 15, 11:16 pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 14, 11:50 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al) wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 14, 10:51 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 13, 7:13 pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 14, 10:39 am, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 13, 3:26 pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 12, 11:59 pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 12, 12:01�pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Linda Fox" <linda...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:8vih74pvkgdkcmula0art55aogmd3pvne1@4ax.com...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 07:20:29 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A two year old is learning to lie or tell the truth. �If a two year
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> old sees its parents lie all the time, then the two year old is going
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to do the same thing.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ho-kayyyy - tell us please, because we'd love to know, how a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> two-year-old can tell its parents are lying when it does not know the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> truth itself. Unless it's by watching the nose grow longer and longer.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Linda ff
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This man obviously has no children.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He has absolutely no idea what a two year old can or can't do.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Look, Bobby, he's two.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He has no fucking clue what an atheist or a theist is.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He's under my feet right now, pushing toy cars around the floor and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shouting, "Beep Beep"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He doesn't even know what a lie is, so how can you expect him to recognize
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve O
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He does not even care.  All he is doing is what he sees you doing.  If
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> he finds lying to be more effective in getting what he wants, he is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> going to lie.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well lets hope he nenver gets involved in religion then, so he wont need to.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How are you going to shield him from the Lorentz equations?  If he
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> goes to school there are books everywhere explaining the miracle of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> length contraction.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What miracle?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If he is smart enough, he wont need to have it explained, he will work
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it out for himself: if he isn't smart enough, he will simply ignore it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as irrelevant to his life.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What he will never get, is someone telling him its the Truth, and if he
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't believe it, he will go to hell for eternity.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scientists say that the Lorentz equations show that an object in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> motion contracts in length relative to a frame of reference at rest
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> until at the speed of light, the object has a length of zero.  So you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are bringing up your son in a religion called atheism that has one
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> miracle.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Whether it is many miracles or only one, a miracle is a miracle.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What makes you think Lorentz equations are part of atheism?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is it the same delusion that has you repeatedly posting garbage into
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> alt.atheism?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Most scientists of today are atheists.  I was discussing the Lorentz
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> equations with scientists in sci.physics.relativity when you atheists
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> butted into the conversation in that newsgroup.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Most scientists today are atheists, yes.  But it's like saying most
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people with blonde hair have blue eyes.  The two things aren't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> actually related.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And you keep lying about how you started this.  One fruitcake who
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> claims to be both a scientist and a christian (but bizarely doesn't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> understand rainbows) cross-posted originally and you waded in with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your lies and confusion into a topic that was already about proving
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this god thing.  And proceeded to lie about everyone.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And now you keep using this myth you've invented about atheists
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> posting into YOUR conversation about physics.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think the two could be related. Not saying they are, I think that it's
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think they are related also.  Scientists and atheists have a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> religion that believes in one miracle, length contraction.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> liar.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, OK, Natural, show how the length contraction is not a miracle.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
>>>>>>>>>>>> Define "miracle"
>>>>>>>>>>>> Al- Hide quoted text -
>>>>>>>>>>> Miracles are manifestations of higher laws.
>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
>>>>>>>>>> Define "manifestation" and "higher laws".
>>>>>>>>>> Al- Hide quoted text -
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>>>>>>>>> Al, why don't you just go to Merriam-Webster online and look them up
>>>>>>>>> for yourself?  If you do not understand words, just go to a
>>>>>>>>> dictionary.
>>>>>>>> Okay, had a look on dictionary.com. So do you think that your religion
>>>>>>>> puts you above the law?- Hide quoted text -
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>>>>>>> Above what law?
>>>>>> The law of the land.- Hide quoted text -
>>>>> No, we are supposed to be the same way Jesus Christ was.  He submitted
>>>>> to civil authorities and let them crucify him.
>>>> Oh. That's the definition of "higher law" from the dictionary. Things
>>>> you think are worth civil disobedience and lawlessness fighting for.- Hide quoted text -
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>>> Jesus Christ did not disobey civil authorities or break any laws of
>>> men.  But he was above those laws the entire time.
>> I'm just wondering if the Feds need to feel uneasy or not.- Hide quoted text -
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> 
> The Feds do need to feel uneasy.  They have a government in the
> process of failing.

Sure sure, fine. I still don't have a sensible definition of "higher 
law". The dictionary disagreed with your definition. Could you 
illuminate me?