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rbwinn wrote:
> On Jul 20, 2:17 pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)"
> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>> On Jul 19, 3:31 am, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
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>>> On Jul 18, 5:48 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>> On Jul 17, 6:51 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 5:45 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 5:31 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 16, 8:36 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 16, 1:04 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 15, 1:21 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 14, 8:43�pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 15, 1:40 am, ben_dolan_...@reet.com (Ben Dolan) wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al) <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 14, 2:54 pm, ben_dolan_...@reet.com (Ben Dolan) wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you for your analysis, Peter. �I was merely expanding on a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> statement from an atheist to show where it was leading: �Atheists do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not believe anything.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's not true, we believe you're a fuckin' moron... We even have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> evidence!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm going to take that as an article of faith. �The evidence isn't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> compelling. �We do have evidence that he's a liar. �So he could be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> acting incredibly stupid, or more likely be stupid, it's impossible to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tell. �But the evidence for lies is overwhelming.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, we believe he's as stupid as dog shit. �But we have evidence, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thus no need of faith, that he's a liar.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I understand your point, but I believe we have overwhelming evidence of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> both. Bobby is a classic newsgroup troll who desparately craves
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> attention. Lying is an excellent way to get attention, although it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> normally means suffering considerable ridicule and insult in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> process.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But I also believe he's rather unintelligent (as most newsgroup trolls
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tend to be). He has shown a remarkable inability to absorb and integrate
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> new information presented to him. There's no indication he reads
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything outside of the few newsgroups he spends countless hours posting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in. And he has shown a breathtaking lack of self awareness and maturity,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whether about his ridiculous physics kookiness or his puerile religious
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nonsense. Taken together these point to someone suffering from mental
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> illness combined with a serious cognitive impairment, or as I prefer to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think of it, he's a fuckin' moron...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OK, I'll agree it's a good summary.
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Profanity is the attempt of a weak mind to make a strong statement,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Al.  You are agreeing with someone who has a weak mind.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Being upset about a select set of simple sounds is strange to me.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Profanity is such a non-issue for grown-ups, I'm far more interested in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the ideas conveyed by the words. You're using the profanity to ignore
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You do not have a point.  You are using various ideas as an excuse to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> use profanity.   It would be more honest to just leave out the ideas
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and have the profanity by itself.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What an odd idea. I don't believe profanity needs an excuse, it's simply
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a language feature that can be leveraged just like any other.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The idea is still conveyed, often more forcefully. If it makes you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> uncomfortable and lets you avoid the point being made, then I'd have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thought you'd have been grateful for the "out"!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How is being profane dishonest?
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>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, not quite normal.  I get tired of atheists who can be totally
>>>>>>>>>>>>> unprofane except when they are talking to me.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Take it somewhere else.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Would you like some cheese with that whine?
>>>>>>>>>>>> If you don't like how atheists are talking to you, you can certainly
>>>>>>>>>>>> snip our newsgroup out of your headers.
>>>>>>>>>>> The behavior of atheists can be changed.  I just go ahead and change
>>>>>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>>>> Pride is a sin.
>>>>>>>>> Yes, that is correct.
>>>>>>>> So, you just sinned.
>>>>>>> In what way did I sin?
>>>>>> Imagining that you have the ability to change atheists.  The sin?  Pride.
>>>>> I do not imagine anything.  I just do things.
>>>> Sorry, but you're still imagining.  Name me one atheist that you've
>>>> "changed".
>>> All atheists with whom I have spoken have changed.
>>> Robert B. Winn
>> Yes.  They all now have an abiding distrust of anything a christian
>> says.
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> Well, no, Al, they see the problem with atheism.  Remember, Al, the
> principle of repentance is available to atheists the same as everyone
> else.

What problem with atheism?