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rbwinn wrote:
> On Jul 20, 1:00 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
>> rbwinn wrote:
>>> On Jul 20, 3:30 am, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>> On Jul 19, 8:49 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>> On Jul 19, 7:19 am, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Jul 18, 8:13 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 18, 4:06 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 6:47 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 5:43 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 5:26 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 16, 7:24 pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 12:09 am, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 15, 1:25�am, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:c6ff2090-3c5f-4de6-97bf-0641d818d2e2@l64g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When are you going to admit you're a satanist, bobbie?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have never been involved in atheism.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Satanism is a faith.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is not a subset of atheism.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve O
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, atheism is a cult of people who say, We do not believe in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> following anything., who follow Satan around.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, Christian are those that say they follow a god of love, who in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fact follow one of the most evil deities of all history.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Al- Hide quoted text -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Exactly which teachings of Jesus Christ do you find to be evil?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, you think that Christians ONLY follow the teachings of Jesus?  What,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for example, did Jesus say about homosexuality?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He said to repent from any sins.  That would include homosexuality.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Homosexuality isn't a sin.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, what did Jesus say about homosexuality?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jesus Christ said that repentance from any sin is necessary before the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> person can enter heaven.  That includes the sin of homosexuality.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But homosexuality is not a sin.  Unless you can find where it says that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it is.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Homosexuality is a sin regardless of what I do.  There is no one on
>>>>>>>>>>>>> earth who cannot tell that homosexuality is a sin.
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm on the Earth, and I have no problem with gay people. What they do in
>>>>>>>>>>>> the privacy of their homes doesn't impact on me one iota. Why on Earth
>>>>>>>>>>>> would I have a problem with homosexuals?- Hide quoted text -
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>>>>>>>>>>> I did not say you had a problem.  I said that you are able to tell
>>>>>>>>>>> that homosexuality is a sin.   If you say you cannot tell it is a sin,
>>>>>>>>>>> you are not telling the truth.
>>>>>>>>>> I don't even subscribe to the concept of sin, so no I don't think it
>>>>>>>>>> sinful. You may think it wrong, I don't. I can't think of any reason I
>>>>>>>>>> would.- Hide quoted text -
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>>>>>>>>> Well, you would not think of it as sin when your fellow atheist Josef
>>>>>>>>> Stalin killed 12 million people.  He was just born that way like
>>>>>>>>> homosexuals are, right?
>>>>>>>> Immoral behaviour exists quite apart from "sin" outside your wacky myths.
>>>>>>>> You will note that we're not all killing peasants left, right and centre.- Hide quoted text -
>>>>>>> Homosexuality is immoral behavior.  So is killing 12 million people.
>>>>>> Homosexuality is not immoral.
>>>>>> --
>>>>> Josef Stalin said that killing 12 million people was not immoral.
>>>> What kind of argument is that? Are you equivocating slaughter with
>>>> homosexuality?- Hide quoted text -
>>> What is your question supposed to mean?  Equivocate does not mean to
>>> set something equal to something else.  This is a typical atheist
>>> question.  You people think you can change the world by asking
>>> ambiguous questions.
>> I didn't understand your link between Joseph Stalin and being gay. I was
>> aksing for clarification. If you're not able to provide it...- Hide quoted text -
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> 
> The conversation about this particular link between Josef Stalin and
> homosexuals began when an atheist said he did not have sins because he
> did not believe in sin.   I said that Josef Stalin had felt the same
> way when he killed 12 million people because he was an atheist and did
> not believe in sin either.  Then homosexuals came into the
> conversation because atheists were saying that homosexuality was not a
> sin.  So the common thread in all this seems to be atheism.

What does Joseph Stalin's crimes have to do with any of us. I don't 
believe in sin, and I've never slaughtered anyone. How is that example 
remotely releveant?

I still have no sensible reason to regard homosexuality as immoral. I 
know many in your religion don't like it, but no gay person ever did me 
any harm.