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On Jul 20, 7:53 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> rbwinn wrote:
> > On Jul 20, 2:52 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >> rbwinn wrote:
> >>> On Jul 20, 10:00 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>> On Jul 20, 6:29�am, Stan-O <bndsna...@aol.com> wrote:
> >>>>>> On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 04:43:08 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com>
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Most of whom are 'beleivers' in one god or another.
> >>>>>>>>>>> We've got one on trial over here at the moment. He shot a guy, then
> >>>>>>>>>>> tried to decapitate two women with a katana. Apparently God told him to
> >>>>>>>>>>> do it. Hopefully the jury disagrees.- Hide quoted text -
> >>>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
> >>>>>>>>>> Almost every murderer today says that because they know the atheistic
> >>>>>>>>>> court system will reward them for saying it.
> >>>>>>>>>> =================================
> >>>>>>>>>> Why would an "atheistic court system" reward someone who claimed to believe
> >>>>>>>>>> in gods, skippy?
> >>>>>>>>> Lawyers reward anyone who adds to their power and financial security.
> >>>>>>>> You've got a whole "reward" thing going on at the moment, why is that?- Hide quoted text -
> >>>>>>> I do not have anything going at the present time. �Lawyers were the
> >>>>>>> people who started "plea bargaining" and did away with the right to
> >>>>>>> trial by jury.
> >>>>>> That's odd, because my boss was just on a jury trial last month. I
> >>>>>> guess that makes you a liar again, doesn't it?- Hide quoted text -
> >>>>> No, it does not.  The right to trial by jury no longer exists.
> >>>> Eh, wha?  Article 3 of the United States Constitution was repealed?
> >>>>>  People
> >>>>> who commit crimes serious enough to be profitable to lawyers are given
> >>>>> the privilege of trial by jury.   That means if you commit a murder,
> >>>>> you can have a lawyer and a trial by jury.  If you are arrested on
> >>>>> misdemeanor charges by police who have decided to harrass you, you
> >>>>> cannot get a trial by jury even though the Constitution guarantees you
> >>>>> that right.
> >>>> Um, no.  You might want to look up the difference between criminal and
> >>>> civil charges...
> >>>> --
> >>> I do not need to look anything up.  Misdemeanors are crimes.  It says
> >>> criminal complaint right on the complaint of a misdemeanor case.
> >> Yes, the right to a jury trial, however, does not apply to petty offenses.
>
> >> See District of Columbia v. Clawans, 300 U.S. 617; Schick v. United
> >> States, 195 U.S. 65; Frankfurter and Corcoran, 39 Harv.L.R. 917. Cf.
> >> Rule 38(a) of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure [28 U.S.C., Appendix].
>
> >>http://tinyurl.com/6mzu5p
>
> > Thank you for your research into case law.  Let me explain how case
> > law applies to the Constitution of the United States.
> > This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be
> > made in pursuance thereof, and all Treaties made , or which shall be
> > made, under authority of the United States, shall be the Supreme law
> > of the land, and the judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any
> > thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary
> > notwithstanding.
> > Amendment VI  In all criminal prosecutions the accused shall enjoy a
> > speedy and public public trial by an impartial jury...
> >     You atheists may not have noticed, but the Constitution can only
> > be changed by amendment.
> >       Your imposement of European laws through the Supreme Court is
> > unlawful here in the United States.
>
> Um, dude, check out the cites I mentioned.
>
They are irrelevant.  The only way to legally change the Constitution
is by amendment.
Robert B. Winn