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On Jul 20, 7:54 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> rbwinn wrote:
> > On Jul 20, 2:53 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >> rbwinn wrote:
> >>> On Jul 20, 10:00 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>> On Jul 20, 6:34�am, Stan-O <bndsna...@aol.com> wrote:
> >>>>>> On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 22:27:44 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com>
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> No, a couple of atheists have told me that. ?They said he was a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Russian Orthodox and an alcoholic.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> He was an alcoholic.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> So, you're making things up again.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hint: He was not a Christian merely because an atheist claimed he was...
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hint #2: ?What school did Stalin go to in 1888?
> >>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>> Stalin went to a Russian Orthodox seminary. ?He rejected what he was
> >>>>>>>>>>> taught there and became a mass murderer.
> >>>>>>>>>> Only partially true. Like I told you before, politicians, and in
> >>>>>>>>>> particular tyrants, will say anything to gain or remain in power.
> >>>>>>>>> Well, Stalin did say he was an atheist. ?He told the truth about that.
> >>>>>>>> He never openly admitted this. In fact, his religious beliefs were
> >>>>>>>> pretty vague. What he hated was the concept of god as presented by the
> >>>>>>>> ROC. He did, however, find a political use for the church when it
> >>>>>>>> suited his purpose.- Hide quoted text -
> >>>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
> >>>>>>> That is quite a statement. �So you are saying that Stalin did not
> >>>>>>> believe in the Communist Manifesto?
> >>>>>> Tyrants will use or believe anything to maintain their control. He
> >>>>>> probably found some parts useful, and ignored anything that
> >>>>>> contradicted his personally ideologies...pretty much the same with you
> >>>>>> and your bible...- Hide quoted text -
> >>>>> Stalin tried to stamp out religion in the Soviet Union.  It is well
> >>>>> documented.
> >>>> And what's that got to do with atheism?
> >>> Stalin was a prominent atheist of his time who is claimed to have been
> >>> a Christian by atheists of today.
> >> Don't change the subject.  What has what Stalin tried to do relevant to
> >> atheism?
>
> >> --
> > So what is the matter?  Stalin and Pol Pot were atheists.  They will
> > never turn into Christians no matter how many times you try to claim
> > they were.
> > Don't you atheists ever take responsibility for anything?
>
> Because what they did is irrelevant to me?  Now, back onto the question
> you are REFUSING to answer:
>
> What has what Stalin tried to do ("tried to stamp out religion in the
> Soviet Union") relevant to atheism?
>
Stalin was an atheist.  His values and beliefs were much like yours
are today.
Robert B. Winn