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Article #12189Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: rbwinn
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 08:03
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 08:03
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On Jul 20, 11:54 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote: > rbwinn wrote: > > On Jul 20, 2:53 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > >> rbwinn wrote: > >>> On Jul 20, 10:00 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > >>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>> On Jul 20, 6:34�am, Stan-O <bndsna...@aol.com> wrote: > >>>>>> On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 22:27:44 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> > >>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>> No, a couple of atheists have told me that. ?They said he was a > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Russian Orthodox and an alcoholic. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> He was an alcoholic. > >>>>>>>>>>>> So, you're making things up again. > >>>>>>>>>>>> Hint: He was not a Christian merely because an atheist claimed he was... > >>>>>>>>>>>> Hint #2: ?What school did Stalin go to in 1888? > >>>>>>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>>>>> Stalin went to a Russian Orthodox seminary. ?He rejected what he was > >>>>>>>>>>> taught there and became a mass murderer. > >>>>>>>>>> Only partially true. Like I told you before, politicians, and in > >>>>>>>>>> particular tyrants, will say anything to gain or remain in power. > >>>>>>>>> Well, Stalin did say he was an atheist. ?He told the truth about that. > >>>>>>>> He never openly admitted this. In fact, his religious beliefs were > >>>>>>>> pretty vague. What he hated was the concept of god as presented by the > >>>>>>>> ROC. He did, however, find a political use for the church when it > >>>>>>>> suited his purpose.- Hide quoted text - > >>>>>>>> - Show quoted text - > >>>>>>> That is quite a statement. �So you are saying that Stalin did not > >>>>>>> believe in the Communist Manifesto? > >>>>>> Tyrants will use or believe anything to maintain their control. He > >>>>>> probably found some parts useful, and ignored anything that > >>>>>> contradicted his personally ideologies...pretty much the same with you > >>>>>> and your bible...- Hide quoted text - > >>>>> Stalin tried to stamp out religion in the Soviet Union. It is well > >>>>> documented. > >>>> And what's that got to do with atheism? > >>> Stalin was a prominent atheist of his time who is claimed to have been > >>> a Christian by atheists of today. > >> Don't change the subject. What has what Stalin tried to do relevant to > >> atheism? > > >> -- > > So what is the matter? Stalin and Pol Pot were atheists. They will > > never turn into Christians no matter how many times you try to claim > > they were. > > Don't you atheists ever take responsibility for anything? > > Hey they were also men, which surely means that all men are muderous > dictator types, right? Unless all atheists aren't all bad either?- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - All atheists are bad. As Pauls said, there is none good, no not one. He was speaking of all men, not just atheists. Robert B. Winn
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