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rbwinn wrote:
> On Jul 20, 7:54 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>> rbwinn wrote:
>>> On Jul 20, 2:53 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>> On Jul 20, 10:00 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>> On Jul 20, 6:34�am, Stan-O <bndsna...@aol.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 22:27:44 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, a couple of atheists have told me that. ?They said he was a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Russian Orthodox and an alcoholic.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He was an alcoholic.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, you're making things up again.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hint: He was not a Christian merely because an atheist claimed he was...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hint #2: ?What school did Stalin go to in 1888?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stalin went to a Russian Orthodox seminary. ?He rejected what he was
>>>>>>>>>>>>> taught there and became a mass murderer.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Only partially true. Like I told you before, politicians, and in
>>>>>>>>>>>> particular tyrants, will say anything to gain or remain in power.
>>>>>>>>>>> Well, Stalin did say he was an atheist. ?He told the truth about that.
>>>>>>>>>> He never openly admitted this. In fact, his religious beliefs were
>>>>>>>>>> pretty vague. What he hated was the concept of god as presented by the
>>>>>>>>>> ROC. He did, however, find a political use for the church when it
>>>>>>>>>> suited his purpose.- Hide quoted text -
>>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>>>>>>>> That is quite a statement. �So you are saying that Stalin did not
>>>>>>>>> believe in the Communist Manifesto?
>>>>>>>> Tyrants will use or believe anything to maintain their control. He
>>>>>>>> probably found some parts useful, and ignored anything that
>>>>>>>> contradicted his personally ideologies...pretty much the same with you
>>>>>>>> and your bible...- Hide quoted text -
>>>>>>> Stalin tried to stamp out religion in the Soviet Union.  It is well
>>>>>>> documented.
>>>>>> And what's that got to do with atheism?
>>>>> Stalin was a prominent atheist of his time who is claimed to have been
>>>>> a Christian by atheists of today.
>>>> Don't change the subject.  What has what Stalin tried to do relevant to
>>>> atheism?
>>>> --
>>> So what is the matter?  Stalin and Pol Pot were atheists.  They will
>>> never turn into Christians no matter how many times you try to claim
>>> they were.
>>> Don't you atheists ever take responsibility for anything?
>> Because what they did is irrelevant to me?  Now, back onto the question
>> you are REFUSING to answer:
>>
>> What has what Stalin tried to do ("tried to stamp out religion in the
>> Soviet Union") relevant to atheism?
>>
>> --
> It is relevant to atheism because Stalin was an atheist.

So, is it also relevant to masculinity?  Stalin was a man, after all... 
  Stalin also had a mustache.  Is that relevant, too?

Oh, Stalin was also born in December.  Is that relevant?
Stalin married a wife.  Is that relevant?



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