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On Jul 20, 11:51 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
> rbwinn wrote:
> > On Jul 20, 12:59 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
> >> rbwinn wrote:
> >>> On Jul 20, 3:25 am, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
> >>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>> On Jul 19, 7:14 am, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
> >>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Jul 18, 8:09 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On Jul 18, 2:40 am, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)"
> >>>>>>>>> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 10:23 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 16, 7:43 pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)"
> >>>>>>>>>>> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 5:36 am, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 15, 11:16 pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 14, 11:50 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al) wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 14, 10:51 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 13, 7:13 pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)"
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 14, 10:39 am, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 13, 3:26 pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 12, 11:59 pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 12, 12:01�pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Linda Fox" <linda...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>news:8vih74pvkgdkcmula0art55aogmd3pvne1@4ax.com...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 07:20:29 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A two year old is learning to lie or tell the truth. �If a two year
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> old sees its parents lie all the time, then the two year old is going
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to do the same thing.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ho-kayyyy - tell us please, because we'd love to know, how a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> two-year-old can tell its parents are lying when it does not know the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> truth itself. Unless it's by watching the nose grow longer and longer.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Linda ff
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This man obviously has no children.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He has absolutely no idea what a two year old can or can't do.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Look, Bobby, he's two.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He has no fucking clue what an atheist or a theist is.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He's under my feet right now, pushing toy cars around the floor and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shouting, "Beep Beep"
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He doesn't even know what a lie is, so how can you expect him to recognize
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve O
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He does not even care.  All he is doing is what he sees you doing.  If
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> he finds lying to be more effective in getting what he wants, he is
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> going to lie.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well lets hope he nenver gets involved in religion then, so he wont need to.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How are you going to shield him from the Lorentz equations?  If he
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> goes to school there are books everywhere explaining the miracle of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> length contraction.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What miracle?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If he is smart enough, he wont need to have it explained, he will work
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it out for himself: if he isn't smart enough, he will simply ignore it
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as irrelevant to his life.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What he will never get, is someone telling him its the Truth, and if he
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't believe it, he will go to hell for eternity.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scientists say that the Lorentz equations show that an object in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> motion contracts in length relative to a frame of reference at rest
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> until at the speed of light, the object has a length of zero.  So you
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are bringing up your son in a religion called atheism that has one
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> miracle.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Whether it is many miracles or only one, a miracle is a miracle.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What makes you think Lorentz equations are part of atheism?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is it the same delusion that has you repeatedly posting garbage into
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> alt.atheism?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Most scientists of today are atheists.  I was discussing the Lorentz
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> equations with scientists in sci.physics.relativity when you atheists
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> butted into the conversation in that newsgroup.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Most scientists today are atheists, yes.  But it's like saying most
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people with blonde hair have blue eyes.  The two things aren't
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> actually related.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And you keep lying about how you started this.  One fruitcake who
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> claims to be both a scientist and a christian (but bizarely doesn't
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> understand rainbows) cross-posted originally and you waded in with
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your lies and confusion into a topic that was already about proving
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this god thing.  And proceeded to lie about everyone.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And now you keep using this myth you've invented about atheists
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> posting into YOUR conversation about physics.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think the two could be related. Not saying they are, I think that it's
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> likely though. Just my opinion.- Hide quoted text -
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> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think they are related also.  Scientists and atheists have a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> religion that believes in one miracle, length contraction.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> liar.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, OK, Natural, show how the length contraction is not a miracle.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Define "miracle"
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Al- Hide quoted text -
> >>>>>>>>>>> Miracles are manifestations of higher laws.
> >>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
> >>>>>>>>>> Define "manifestation" and "higher laws".
> >>>>>>>>>> Al- Hide quoted text -
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> >>>>>>>>> Al, why don't you just go to Merriam-Webster online and look them up
> >>>>>>>>> for yourself?  If you do not understand words, just go to a
> >>>>>>>>> dictionary.
> >>>>>>>> Okay, had a look on dictionary.com. So do you think that your religion
> >>>>>>>> puts you above the law?- Hide quoted text -
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> >>>>>>> Above what law?
> >>>>>> The law of the land.- Hide quoted text -
> >>>>> No, we are supposed to be the same way Jesus Christ was.  He submitted
> >>>>> to civil authorities and let them crucify him.
> >>>> Oh. That's the definition of "higher law" from the dictionary. Things
> >>>> you think are worth civil disobedience and lawlessness fighting for.- Hide quoted text -
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> >>> Jesus Christ did not disobey civil authorities or break any laws of
> >>> men.  But he was above those laws the entire time.
> >> I'm just wondering if the Feds need to feel uneasy or not.- Hide quoted text -
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>
> > The Feds do need to feel uneasy.  They have a government in the
> > process of failing.
>
> Sure sure, fine. I still don't have a sensible definition of "higher
> law". The dictionary disagreed with your definition. Could you
> illuminate me?- Hide quoted text -
>
No, I don't think so.  I think you will stay the way you are.
Robert B. Winn