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On Jul 20, 10:15�am, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 10:09:57 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com>
> wrote in alt.atheism:
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> >On Jul 20, 9:46?am, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> >> On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 09:07:30 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com>
> >> wrote in alt.atheism:
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> >> >On Jul 20, 7:16?am, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
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> >> >> Where did Jesus say it was immoral?- Hide quoted text -
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> >> >Matthew 5:19 ?Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least
> >> >commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in
> >> >the kingdom of heaven; but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same
> >> >shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
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> >> Of course Jesus is not saying it is immoral, is it. That's just a
> >> catchall and you still have the problem of showing that Jesus thought it
> >> was immoral.
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> >> You'll need to tell us exactly which commandment this is that Jesus was
> >> endorseing and why you ignore the other commandments that were
> >> supposedly given at the same time. Why do you not keep the Sabbath? Why
> >> don't you keep kosher? Why don't you follow the rules given for worship?
> >> Why, in short, do you reject all of the rules of Judaism, but keep a
> >> handful to abuse those you do not like? The gospels tell us that Jesus
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> >As I pointed out before, the law of Christ has two commandments, �Love
> >the Lord thy God, and Love thy neighbor as thyself. �The Law of Moses
> >was given as a schoolmaster to the Israelites after they broke their
> >covenant with God by worshipping a golden calf at Mount Sinai. �It was
> >a law of carnal commandments which, by the time of Christ, was
> >becoming ridiculous in its attention to detail and devotion to the
> >letter of the law, much like atheists view religion today.
> >This was the reason for further clarification given by Jesus Christ,
> >The letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.
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> So, you're just trying to have it both ways. You want to discriminate
> against gays so you blame Jesus for your bigotry. When I ask you about
> why you don't follow the law that you are trying to invoke you make more
> excuses and blame Jesus again.
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> Sorry, but Jesus had nothing to do with your behavior. You have chosen
> to be a bigot. You have chosen to be intolerant. You have chosen to be a
> liar. You have chosen to mock Jesus with your doctrines. You, and you
> alone, are responsible for the lies you tell and the false doctrines you
> preach. Don't blame Jesus, we atheists know enough of the Bible to know
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Well, since you know so much, discuss it with Jesus.  It has nothing
to do with me.
Robert B. Winn