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Re: Does God need to prove He exists?

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From: DanielSan
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 21:53
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rbwinn wrote:
> On Jul 20, 10:00 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>> rbwinn wrote:
>>> On Jul 20, 6:34�am, Stan-O <bndsna...@aol.com> wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 22:27:44 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> No, a couple of atheists have told me that. ?They said he was a
>>>>>>>>>>> Russian Orthodox and an alcoholic.
>>>>>>>>>>> He was an alcoholic.
>>>>>>>>>> So, you're making things up again.
>>>>>>>>>> Hint: He was not a Christian merely because an atheist claimed he was...
>>>>>>>>>> Hint #2: ?What school did Stalin go to in 1888?
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Stalin went to a Russian Orthodox seminary. ?He rejected what he was
>>>>>>>>> taught there and became a mass murderer.
>>>>>>>> Only partially true. Like I told you before, politicians, and in
>>>>>>>> particular tyrants, will say anything to gain or remain in power.
>>>>>>> Well, Stalin did say he was an atheist. ?He told the truth about that.
>>>>>> He never openly admitted this. In fact, his religious beliefs were
>>>>>> pretty vague. What he hated was the concept of god as presented by the
>>>>>> ROC. He did, however, find a political use for the church when it
>>>>>> suited his purpose.- Hide quoted text -
>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>>>> That is quite a statement. �So you are saying that Stalin did not
>>>>> believe in the Communist Manifesto?
>>>> Tyrants will use or believe anything to maintain their control. He
>>>> probably found some parts useful, and ignored anything that
>>>> contradicted his personally ideologies...pretty much the same with you
>>>> and your bible...- Hide quoted text -
>>> Stalin tried to stamp out religion in the Soviet Union.  It is well
>>> documented.
>> And what's that got to do with atheism?
>>
> Stalin was a prominent atheist of his time who is claimed to have been
> a Christian by atheists of today.

Don't change the subject.  What has what Stalin tried to do relevant to 
atheism?

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