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Article #12230Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: DanielSan
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 21:54
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 21:54
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rbwinn wrote: > On Jul 20, 10:02 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: >> rbwinn wrote: >>> On Jul 20, 7:16�am, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote: >>>> On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 22:35:27 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> >>>> wrote in alt.atheism: >>>>> On Jul 19, 10:02�pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: >>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>> On Jul 19, 12:06?pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote: >>>>>>>> On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 12:02:23 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> >>>>>>>> wrote in alt.atheism: >>>>>>>>> On Jul 19, 8:49?am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 19, 7:19 am, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 18, 8:13 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 18, 4:06 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 6:47 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 5:43 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 5:26 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 16, 7:24 pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 12:09 am, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 15, 1:25?am, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:c6ff2090-3c5f-4de6-97bf-0641d818d2e2@l64g2000hse.googlegroups.com... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When are you going to admit you're a satanist, bobbie? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have never been involved in atheism. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Satanism is a faith. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is not a subset of atheism. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve O >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, atheism is a cult of people who say, We do not believe in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> following anything., who follow Satan around. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, Christian are those that say they follow a god of love, who in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fact follow one of the most evil deities of all history. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Al- Hide quoted text - >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Exactly which teachings of Jesus Christ do you find to be evil? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, you think that Christians ONLY follow the teachings of Jesus? ?What, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for example, did Jesus say about homosexuality? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He said to repent from any sins. ?That would include homosexuality. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Homosexuality isn't a sin. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, what did Jesus say about homosexuality? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jesus Christ said that repentance from any sin is necessary before the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> person can enter heaven. ?That includes the sin of homosexuality. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But homosexuality is not a sin. ?Unless you can find where it says that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it is. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Homosexuality is a sin regardless of what I do. ?There is no one on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> earth who cannot tell that homosexuality is a sin. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm on the Earth, and I have no problem with gay people. What they do in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the privacy of their homes doesn't impact on me one iota. Why on Earth >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would I have a problem with homosexuals?- Hide quoted text - >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text - >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I did not say you had a problem. ?I said that you are able to tell >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that homosexuality is a sin. ? If you say you cannot tell it is a sin, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you are not telling the truth. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't even subscribe to the concept of sin, so no I don't think it >>>>>>>>>>>>>> sinful. You may think it wrong, I don't. I can't think of any reason I >>>>>>>>>>>>>> would.- Hide quoted text - >>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text - >>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, you would not think of it as sin when your fellow atheist Josef >>>>>>>>>>>>> Stalin killed 12 million people. ?He was just born that way like >>>>>>>>>>>>> homosexuals are, right? >>>>>>>>>>>> Immoral behaviour exists quite apart from "sin" outside your wacky myths. >>>>>>>>>>>> You will note that we're not all killing peasants left, right and centre.- Hide quoted text - >>>>>>>>>>> Homosexuality is immoral behavior. ?So is killing 12 million people. >>>>>>>>>> Homosexuality is not immoral. >>>>>>>>> Explain it to Jesus Christ. ?It does not have anything to do with me. >>>>>>>> So you are now admitting that your earlier claim was dishonest and that >>>>>>>> you do not have any evidence that it is immoral behavior. Maybe you can >>>>>>>> learn.- Hide quoted text - >>>>>>> Jesus Christ said it was immoral behavior. �That makes it immoral >>>>>>> behavior. >>>>>> Where did he say it was immoral behavior? >>>>> Romans 2:27 �And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the >>>>> woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working >>>>> that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of >>>>> their error which was meet. >>>> Where did Jesus say it was immoral?- Hide quoted text - >>> Matthew 5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least >>> commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in >>> the kingdom of heaven; but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same >>> shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. >> Now you're jumping all over the place. Matthew 5:17-20 talks about the >> "laws of the Prophets". Show how Romans 1:27 is a "law of the Prophet". >> > Paul was a prophet. He was one of the twelve apostles. Show how Romans 1:27 is a "law of the Prophets". -- ****************************************************** * DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226 * *----------------------------------------------------* * "I distrust those people who know so well what God * * wants them to do because I notice it always * * coincides with their own desires." * * --Susan B. Anthony * ******************************************************
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