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On Jul 20, 10:18 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> rbwinn wrote:
> > On Jul 20, 9:48 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >> rbwinn wrote:
> >>> On Jul 19, 10:50 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>> On Jul 19, 10:02 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Jul 19, 12:06�pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 12:02:23 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com>
> >>>>>>>> wrote in alt.atheism:
> >>>>>>>>> On Jul 19, 8:49�am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 19, 7:19 am, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 18, 8:13 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 18, 4:06 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 6:47 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 5:43 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 5:26 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 16, 7:24 pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)"
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 12:09 am, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 15, 1:25?am, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>news:c6ff2090-3c5f-4de6-97bf-0641d818d2e2@l64g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When are you going to admit you're a satanist, bobbie?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have never been involved in atheism.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Satanism is a faith.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is not a subset of atheism.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve O
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, atheism is a cult of people who say, We do not believe in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> following anything., who follow Satan around.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, Christian are those that say they follow a god of love, who in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fact follow one of the most evil deities of all history.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Al- Hide quoted text -
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Exactly which teachings of Jesus Christ do you find to be evil?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, you think that Christians ONLY follow the teachings of Jesus? �What,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for example, did Jesus say about homosexuality?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He said to repent from any sins. �That would include homosexuality.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Homosexuality isn't a sin.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, what did Jesus say about homosexuality?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jesus Christ said that repentance from any sin is necessary before the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> person can enter heaven. �That includes the sin of homosexuality.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But homosexuality is not a sin. �Unless you can find where it says that
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it is.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Homosexuality is a sin regardless of what I do. �There is no one on
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> earth who cannot tell that homosexuality is a sin.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm on the Earth, and I have no problem with gay people. What they do in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the privacy of their homes doesn't impact on me one iota. Why on Earth
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would I have a problem with homosexuals?- Hide quoted text -
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> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I did not say you had a problem. �I said that you are able to tell
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that homosexuality is a sin. � If you say you cannot tell it is a sin,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you are not telling the truth.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't even subscribe to the concept of sin, so no I don't think it
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> sinful. You may think it wrong, I don't. I can't think of any reason I
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> would.- Hide quoted text -
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> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, you would not think of it as sin when your fellow atheist Josef
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Stalin killed 12 million people. �He was just born that way like
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> homosexuals are, right?
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Immoral behaviour exists quite apart from "sin" outside your wacky myths.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> You will note that we're not all killing peasants left, right and centre.- Hide quoted text -
> >>>>>>>>>>> Homosexuality is immoral behavior. �So is killing 12 million people.
> >>>>>>>>>> Homosexuality is not immoral.
> >>>>>>>>> Explain it to Jesus Christ. �It does not have anything to do with me.
> >>>>>>>> So you are now admitting that your earlier claim was dishonest and that
> >>>>>>>> you do not have any evidence that it is immoral behavior. Maybe you can
> >>>>>>>> learn.- Hide quoted text -
> >>>>>>> Jesus Christ said it was immoral behavior.  That makes it immoral
> >>>>>>> behavior.
> >>>>>> Where did he say it was immoral behavior?
> >>>>> Romans 2:27  And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the
> >>>>> woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working
> >>>>> that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of
> >>>>> their error which was meet.
> >>>> Err, I think you might have that wrong.  My Bible says that Romans 2:27
> >>>> says:
> >>>> "The one who is not circumcised physically and yet obeys the law will
> >>>> condemn you who, even though you have the written code and circumcision,
> >>>> are a lawbreaker."
> >>> Typographical error. Romans 1:27.
> >> Romans 1:18-31 are things that God did to man for idolatry.  Check out
> >> verse 26:
>
> >> "Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women
> >> exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones."
> > Yes, there are women who are homosexuals also, and women who engage in
> > sexual perversions with men.
>
> Homosexuality is not a sexual perversion, though.
>
>
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> >> PS- Romans 1:27 doesn't mention homosexuality.
> > Romans 1:27 is about homosexual activity between men.
>
> No, it isn't.
>
>
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> >> PPS- Romans 1 was written by Paul, not Jesus.
>
> >> --
> > Paul was an apostle, and whatever he said comes under the instruction
> > by Christ, Whether by my voice or the voice of my servants, it is the
> > same.
>
> So, Jesus didn't say it.
>
Paul said it.  He was one of the twelve apostles.
Robert B. Winn