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Article #12234Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: DanielSan
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 21:57
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 21:57
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rbwinn wrote: > On Jul 20, 10:18 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: >> rbwinn wrote: >>> On Jul 20, 9:48 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: >>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>> On Jul 19, 10:50 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: >>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>> On Jul 19, 10:02 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: >>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>> On Jul 19, 12:06�pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 12:02:23 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> >>>>>>>>>> wrote in alt.atheism: >>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 19, 8:49�am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 19, 7:19 am, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 18, 8:13 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 18, 4:06 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 6:47 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 5:43 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 5:26 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 16, 7:24 pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 12:09 am, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 15, 1:25?am, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:c6ff2090-3c5f-4de6-97bf-0641d818d2e2@l64g2000hse.googlegroups.com... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When are you going to admit you're a satanist, bobbie? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have never been involved in atheism. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Satanism is a faith. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is not a subset of atheism. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve O >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, atheism is a cult of people who say, We do not believe in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> following anything., who follow Satan around. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, Christian are those that say they follow a god of love, who in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fact follow one of the most evil deities of all history. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Al- Hide quoted text - >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Exactly which teachings of Jesus Christ do you find to be evil? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, you think that Christians ONLY follow the teachings of Jesus? �What, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for example, did Jesus say about homosexuality? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He said to repent from any sins. �That would include homosexuality. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Homosexuality isn't a sin. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, what did Jesus say about homosexuality? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jesus Christ said that repentance from any sin is necessary before the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> person can enter heaven. �That includes the sin of homosexuality. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But homosexuality is not a sin. �Unless you can find where it says that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it is. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Homosexuality is a sin regardless of what I do. �There is no one on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> earth who cannot tell that homosexuality is a sin. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm on the Earth, and I have no problem with gay people. What they do in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the privacy of their homes doesn't impact on me one iota. Why on Earth >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would I have a problem with homosexuals?- Hide quoted text - >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text - >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I did not say you had a problem. �I said that you are able to tell >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that homosexuality is a sin. � If you say you cannot tell it is a sin, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you are not telling the truth. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't even subscribe to the concept of sin, so no I don't think it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sinful. You may think it wrong, I don't. I can't think of any reason I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would.- Hide quoted text - >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text - >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, you would not think of it as sin when your fellow atheist Josef >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stalin killed 12 million people. �He was just born that way like >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> homosexuals are, right? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Immoral behaviour exists quite apart from "sin" outside your wacky myths. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> You will note that we're not all killing peasants left, right and centre.- Hide quoted text - >>>>>>>>>>>>> Homosexuality is immoral behavior. �So is killing 12 million people. >>>>>>>>>>>> Homosexuality is not immoral. >>>>>>>>>>> Explain it to Jesus Christ. �It does not have anything to do with me. >>>>>>>>>> So you are now admitting that your earlier claim was dishonest and that >>>>>>>>>> you do not have any evidence that it is immoral behavior. Maybe you can >>>>>>>>>> learn.- Hide quoted text - >>>>>>>>> Jesus Christ said it was immoral behavior. That makes it immoral >>>>>>>>> behavior. >>>>>>>> Where did he say it was immoral behavior? >>>>>>> Romans 2:27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the >>>>>>> woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working >>>>>>> that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of >>>>>>> their error which was meet. >>>>>> Err, I think you might have that wrong. My Bible says that Romans 2:27 >>>>>> says: >>>>>> "The one who is not circumcised physically and yet obeys the law will >>>>>> condemn you who, even though you have the written code and circumcision, >>>>>> are a lawbreaker." >>>>> Typographical error. Romans 1:27. >>>> Romans 1:18-31 are things that God did to man for idolatry. Check out >>>> verse 26: >>>> "Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women >>>> exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones." >>> Yes, there are women who are homosexuals also, and women who engage in >>> sexual perversions with men. >> Homosexuality is not a sexual perversion, though. >> >> >> >>>> PS- Romans 1:27 doesn't mention homosexuality. >>> Romans 1:27 is about homosexual activity between men. >> No, it isn't. >> >> >> >>>> PPS- Romans 1 was written by Paul, not Jesus. >>>> -- >>> Paul was an apostle, and whatever he said comes under the instruction >>> by Christ, Whether by my voice or the voice of my servants, it is the >>> same. >> So, Jesus didn't say it. >> > Paul said it. He was one of the twelve apostles. So, Jesus didn't say it. -- ****************************************************** * DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226 * *----------------------------------------------------* * "I distrust those people who know so well what God * * wants them to do because I notice it always * * coincides with their own desires." * * --Susan B. Anthony * ******************************************************
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