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Article #12235Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: rbwinn
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 21:59
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 21:59
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On Jul 20, 10:19 am, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote: > "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message > > news:d56410cf-c39e-4de7-9b1a-51ae24806393@56g2000hsm.googlegroups.com... > > > > > > > On Jul 20, 3:35 am, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote: > >> rbwinn wrote: > >> > On Jul 19, 8:49 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > >> >> rbwinn wrote: > >> >>> On Jul 19, 7:19 am, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote: > >> >>>> rbwinn wrote: > >> >>>>> On Jul 18, 8:13 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote: > >> >>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >> >>>>>>> On Jul 18, 4:06 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote: > >> >>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >> >>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 6:47 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > >> >>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >> >>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 5:43 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 5:26 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 16, 7:24 pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)" > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote: > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 12:09 am, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 15, 1:25�am, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>news:c6ff2090-3c5f-4de6-97bf-0641d818d2e2@l64g2000hse.googlegroups.com... > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When are you going to admit you're a satanist, > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bobbie? > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have never been involved in atheism. > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Satanism is a faith. > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is not a subset of atheism. > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve O > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, atheism is a cult of people who say, We do not > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> believe in > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> following anything., who follow Satan around. > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, Christian are those that say they follow a god of > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> love, who in > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fact follow one of the most evil deities of all history. > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Al- Hide quoted text - > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Exactly which teachings of Jesus Christ do you find to be > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> evil? > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, you think that Christians ONLY follow the teachings of > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jesus? What, > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> for example, did Jesus say about homosexuality? > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> He said to repent from any sins. That would include > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> homosexuality. > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> Homosexuality isn't a sin. > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> Now, what did Jesus say about homosexuality? > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> -- > >> >>>>>>>>>>> Jesus Christ said that repentance from any sin is necessary > >> >>>>>>>>>>> before the > >> >>>>>>>>>>> person can enter heaven. That includes the sin of > >> >>>>>>>>>>> homosexuality. > >> >>>>>>>>>> But homosexuality is not a sin. Unless you can find where it > >> >>>>>>>>>> says that > >> >>>>>>>>>> it is. > >> >>>>>>>>> Homosexuality is a sin regardless of what I do. There is no one > >> >>>>>>>>> on > >> >>>>>>>>> earth who cannot tell that homosexuality is a sin. > >> >>>>>>>> I'm on the Earth, and I have no problem with gay people. What > >> >>>>>>>> they do in > >> >>>>>>>> the privacy of their homes doesn't impact on me one iota. Why on > >> >>>>>>>> Earth > >> >>>>>>>> would I have a problem with homosexuals?- Hide quoted text - > >> >>>>>>>> - Show quoted text - > >> >>>>>>> I did not say you had a problem. I said that you are able to tell > >> >>>>>>> that homosexuality is a sin. If you say you cannot tell it is a > >> >>>>>>> sin, > >> >>>>>>> you are not telling the truth. > >> >>>>>> I don't even subscribe to the concept of sin, so no I don't think > >> >>>>>> it > >> >>>>>> sinful. You may think it wrong, I don't. I can't think of any > >> >>>>>> reason I > >> >>>>>> would.- Hide quoted text - > >> >>>>>> - Show quoted text - > >> >>>>> Well, you would not think of it as sin when your fellow atheist > >> >>>>> Josef > >> >>>>> Stalin killed 12 million people. He was just born that way like > >> >>>>> homosexuals are, right? > >> >>>> Immoral behaviour exists quite apart from "sin" outside your wacky > >> >>>> myths. > >> >>>> You will note that we're not all killing peasants left, right and > >> >>>> centre.- Hide quoted text - > >> >>> Homosexuality is immoral behavior. So is killing 12 million people. > >> >> Homosexuality is not immoral. > > >> > Explain it to Jesus Christ. It does not have anything to do with me. > > >> This is a neat trick. > > >> Your religion has allowed you to disavow any responsibility for your > >> bigotry. > > >> ...and because it's a religious opinion, it automatically gets more > >> respect than it deserves. > > >> You can hold the vilest of opinions, and never have to back them up at > >> all. > > >> Genius!- Hide quoted text - > > That's how religion works. > It gives people excuses to behave atrociously, all in the name of God. > So immoral. > > > > > If you do not like it, complain to Jesus Christ. He told us to stay > > out of homosexuality. > > Robert B. Winn > > Please quote the part of the New Testament where he does that. > Or go back and read your bible properly. > Matthew 7:21` Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Robert B. Winn
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