🚀 go-pugleaf

RetroBBS NetNews Server

Inspired by RockSolid Light RIP Retro Guy

Article View: sci.physics
Article #12235

Re: Does God need to prove He exists?

#12235
From: rbwinn
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 21:59
147 lines
8251 bytes
On Jul 20, 10:19 am, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote:
> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
>
> news:d56410cf-c39e-4de7-9b1a-51ae24806393@56g2000hsm.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jul 20, 3:35 am, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
> >> rbwinn wrote:
> >> > On Jul 19, 8:49 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >> >> rbwinn wrote:
> >> >>> On Jul 19, 7:19 am, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
> >> >>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >> >>>>> On Jul 18, 8:13 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
> >> >>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >> >>>>>>> On Jul 18, 4:06 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 6:47 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 5:43 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 5:26 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 16, 7:24 pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)"
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 12:09 am, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 15, 1:25�am, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>news:c6ff2090-3c5f-4de6-97bf-0641d818d2e2@l64g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When are you going to admit you're a satanist,
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bobbie?
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have never been involved in atheism.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Satanism is a faith.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is not a subset of atheism.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve O
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, atheism is a cult of people who say, We do not
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> believe in
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> following anything., who follow Satan around.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, Christian are those that say they follow a god of
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> love, who in
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fact follow one of the most evil deities of all history.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Al- Hide quoted text -
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Exactly which teachings of Jesus Christ do you find to be
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> evil?
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, you think that Christians ONLY follow the teachings of
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jesus? What,
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> for example, did Jesus say about homosexuality?
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> He said to repent from any sins. That would include
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> homosexuality.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> Homosexuality isn't a sin.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> Now, what did Jesus say about homosexuality?
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> Jesus Christ said that repentance from any sin is necessary
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> before the
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> person can enter heaven. That includes the sin of
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> homosexuality.
> >> >>>>>>>>>> But homosexuality is not a sin. Unless you can find where it
> >> >>>>>>>>>> says that
> >> >>>>>>>>>> it is.
> >> >>>>>>>>> Homosexuality is a sin regardless of what I do. There is no one
> >> >>>>>>>>> on
> >> >>>>>>>>> earth who cannot tell that homosexuality is a sin.
> >> >>>>>>>> I'm on the Earth, and I have no problem with gay people. What
> >> >>>>>>>> they do in
> >> >>>>>>>> the privacy of their homes doesn't impact on me one iota. Why on
> >> >>>>>>>> Earth
> >> >>>>>>>> would I have a problem with homosexuals?- Hide quoted text -
> >> >>>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
> >> >>>>>>> I did not say you had a problem. I said that you are able to tell
> >> >>>>>>> that homosexuality is a sin. If you say you cannot tell it is a
> >> >>>>>>> sin,
> >> >>>>>>> you are not telling the truth.
> >> >>>>>> I don't even subscribe to the concept of sin, so no I don't think
> >> >>>>>> it
> >> >>>>>> sinful. You may think it wrong, I don't. I can't think of any
> >> >>>>>> reason I
> >> >>>>>> would.- Hide quoted text -
> >> >>>>>> - Show quoted text -
> >> >>>>> Well, you would not think of it as sin when your fellow atheist
> >> >>>>> Josef
> >> >>>>> Stalin killed 12 million people. He was just born that way like
> >> >>>>> homosexuals are, right?
> >> >>>> Immoral behaviour exists quite apart from "sin" outside your wacky
> >> >>>> myths.
> >> >>>> You will note that we're not all killing peasants left, right and
> >> >>>> centre.- Hide quoted text -
> >> >>> Homosexuality is immoral behavior. So is killing 12 million people.
> >> >> Homosexuality is not immoral.
>
> >> > Explain it to Jesus Christ. It does not have anything to do with me.
>
> >> This is a neat trick.
>
> >> Your religion has allowed you to disavow any responsibility for your
> >> bigotry.
>
> >> ...and because it's a religious opinion, it automatically gets more
> >> respect than it deserves.
>
> >> You can hold the vilest of opinions, and never have to back them up at
> >> all.
>
> >> Genius!- Hide quoted text -
>
> That's how religion works.
> It gives people excuses to behave atrociously, all in the name of God.
> So immoral.
>
>
>
> > If you do not like it, complain to Jesus Christ.  He told us to stay
> > out of homosexuality.
> > Robert B. Winn
>
> Please quote the part of the New Testament where he does that.
> Or go back and read your bible properly.
>
Matthew 7:21`  Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall
enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my
Father which is in heaven.
Robert B. Winn
Technical Details
Message-ID: <ce43db6c-1421-4ad5-ac71-102b34a9f5ec@l64g2000hse.googlegroups.com>
Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!g2news1.google.com!postnews.google.com!l64g2000hse.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail
References: <mPGdnWQjyPLiBenVnZ2dnUVZ8uWdnZ2d@bt.com> <vIudnZpb_abKo-LVnZ2dnUVZ_jWdnZ2d@speakeasy.net> <4ed7eb3c-4108-4393-975c-c003fbeb502d@d45g2000hsc.googlegroups.com> <7uKdndbnpO3aa-LVnZ2dnUVZ_hzinZ2d@speakeasy.net> <6d66eafc-ee02-4fd3-b5cf-d02ae60eb88d@u12g2000prd.googlegroups.com> <488121EA.2030804@paradise.net.nz> <66ad5b5e-70da-498c-b03f-cb4eb4e74262@m3g2000hsc.googlegroups.com> <48815bc3$1@clear.net.nz> <f8086787-0de0-4018-b81f-c46df24b475e@l42g2000hsc.googlegroups.com> <4881f7f4@clear.net.nz> <48393cc4-d394-4f0f-9f45-6ec3546e4565@b1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <BaSdnQ6ih8KIkB_VnZ2dnUVZ_orinZ2d@speakeasy.net> <bda74b08-8676-45f1-94a6-addf63b1d150@8g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <488314ee$1@clear.net.nz> <d56410cf-c39e-4de7-9b1a-51ae24806393@56g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> <6ehachF6njjeU1@mid.individual.net>

Show Full Headers
Complete Article Headers
X-Google-Thread: 10b271,d932fee6d9806ab9
X-Google-Thread: 102f53,dac8026861d35fee
X-Google-Thread: f442a,d932fee6d9806ab9
X-Google-Thread: 116469,d932fee6d9806ab9
X-Google-Attributes: gid10b271,gid102f53,gidf442a,gid116469,domainid0,public,usenet
X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,UTF8
Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!g2news1.google.com!postnews.google.com!l64g2000hse.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail
From: rbwinn <rbwinn3@juno.com>
Newsgroups: sci.physics,cam.misc,alt.sci.physics,alt.atheism
Subject: Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 14:59:59 -0700 (PDT)
Organization: http://groups.google.com
Lines: 147
Message-ID: <ce43db6c-1421-4ad5-ac71-102b34a9f5ec@l64g2000hse.googlegroups.com>
References: <mPGdnWQjyPLiBenVnZ2dnUVZ8uWdnZ2d@bt.com> <vIudnZpb_abKo-LVnZ2dnUVZ_jWdnZ2d@speakeasy.net> 
 <4ed7eb3c-4108-4393-975c-c003fbeb502d@d45g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>
 <7uKdndbnpO3aa-LVnZ2dnUVZ_hzinZ2d@speakeasy.net> <6d66eafc-ee02-4fd3-b5cf-d02ae60eb88d@u12g2000prd.googlegroups.com>
 <488121EA.2030804@paradise.net.nz> <66ad5b5e-70da-498c-b03f-cb4eb4e74262@m3g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>
 <48815bc3$1@clear.net.nz> <f8086787-0de0-4018-b81f-c46df24b475e@l42g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>
 <4881f7f4@clear.net.nz> <48393cc4-d394-4f0f-9f45-6ec3546e4565@b1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>
 <BaSdnQ6ih8KIkB_VnZ2dnUVZ_orinZ2d@speakeasy.net> <bda74b08-8676-45f1-94a6-addf63b1d150@8g2000hse.googlegroups.com>
 <488314ee$1@clear.net.nz> <d56410cf-c39e-4de7-9b1a-51ae24806393@56g2000hsm.googlegroups.com>
 <6ehachF6njjeU1@mid.individual.net>
NNTP-Posting-Host: 205.188.117.9
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
X-Trace: posting.google.com 1216591200 6807 127.0.0.1 (20 Jul 2008 22:00:00 GMT)
X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com
NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 22:00:00 +0000 (UTC)
Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com
Injection-Info: l64g2000hse.googlegroups.com; posting-host=205.188.117.9; 
 posting-account=i6vpvwoAAABRbNds_JrzhNT-NaeHIrDG
User-Agent: G2/1.0
X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; AOL 9.1; AOLBuild 
 4334.36; Windows NT 5.1; .NET CLR 1.1.4322; .NET CLR 2.0.50727),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe)
X-HTTP-Via: HTTP/1.1 (Velocity/3.1.1.5 [uScMs f p eN:t cCMp s ]), HTTP/1.1 
 spider-dtc-tg02.proxy.aol.com[CDBC70C2] (Prism/1.2.1), HTTP/1.1
 cache-dtc-ae05.proxy.aol.com[CDBC7509] (Traffic-Server/6.1.5 [uScM])