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Article #12237Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: DanielSan
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 22:05
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 22:05
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rbwinn wrote: > On Jul 20, 10:19 am, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote: >> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message >> >> news:d56410cf-c39e-4de7-9b1a-51ae24806393@56g2000hsm.googlegroups.com... >> >> >> >> >> >>> On Jul 20, 3:35 am, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote: >>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>> On Jul 19, 8:49 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: >>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>> On Jul 19, 7:19 am, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote: >>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>> On Jul 18, 8:13 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 18, 4:06 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 6:47 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 5:43 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 5:26 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 16, 7:24 pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 12:09 am, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 15, 1:25�am, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:c6ff2090-3c5f-4de6-97bf-0641d818d2e2@l64g2000hse.googlegroups.com... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When are you going to admit you're a satanist, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bobbie? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have never been involved in atheism. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Satanism is a faith. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is not a subset of atheism. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve O >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, atheism is a cult of people who say, We do not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> believe in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> following anything., who follow Satan around. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, Christian are those that say they follow a god of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> love, who in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fact follow one of the most evil deities of all history. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Al- Hide quoted text - >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Exactly which teachings of Jesus Christ do you find to be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> evil? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, you think that Christians ONLY follow the teachings of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jesus? What, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for example, did Jesus say about homosexuality? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He said to repent from any sins. That would include >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> homosexuality. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Homosexuality isn't a sin. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, what did Jesus say about homosexuality? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jesus Christ said that repentance from any sin is necessary >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> before the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> person can enter heaven. That includes the sin of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> homosexuality. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> But homosexuality is not a sin. Unless you can find where it >>>>>>>>>>>>>> says that >>>>>>>>>>>>>> it is. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Homosexuality is a sin regardless of what I do. There is no one >>>>>>>>>>>>> on >>>>>>>>>>>>> earth who cannot tell that homosexuality is a sin. >>>>>>>>>>>> I'm on the Earth, and I have no problem with gay people. What >>>>>>>>>>>> they do in >>>>>>>>>>>> the privacy of their homes doesn't impact on me one iota. Why on >>>>>>>>>>>> Earth >>>>>>>>>>>> would I have a problem with homosexuals?- Hide quoted text - >>>>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text - >>>>>>>>>>> I did not say you had a problem. I said that you are able to tell >>>>>>>>>>> that homosexuality is a sin. If you say you cannot tell it is a >>>>>>>>>>> sin, >>>>>>>>>>> you are not telling the truth. >>>>>>>>>> I don't even subscribe to the concept of sin, so no I don't think >>>>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>>>> sinful. You may think it wrong, I don't. I can't think of any >>>>>>>>>> reason I >>>>>>>>>> would.- Hide quoted text - >>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text - >>>>>>>>> Well, you would not think of it as sin when your fellow atheist >>>>>>>>> Josef >>>>>>>>> Stalin killed 12 million people. He was just born that way like >>>>>>>>> homosexuals are, right? >>>>>>>> Immoral behaviour exists quite apart from "sin" outside your wacky >>>>>>>> myths. >>>>>>>> You will note that we're not all killing peasants left, right and >>>>>>>> centre.- Hide quoted text - >>>>>>> Homosexuality is immoral behavior. So is killing 12 million people. >>>>>> Homosexuality is not immoral. >>>>> Explain it to Jesus Christ. It does not have anything to do with me. >>>> This is a neat trick. >>>> Your religion has allowed you to disavow any responsibility for your >>>> bigotry. >>>> ...and because it's a religious opinion, it automatically gets more >>>> respect than it deserves. >>>> You can hold the vilest of opinions, and never have to back them up at >>>> all. >>>> Genius!- Hide quoted text - >> That's how religion works. >> It gives people excuses to behave atrociously, all in the name of God. >> So immoral. >> >> >> >>> If you do not like it, complain to Jesus Christ. He told us to stay >>> out of homosexuality. >>> Robert B. Winn >> Please quote the part of the New Testament where he does that. >> Or go back and read your bible properly. >> > Matthew 7:21` Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall > enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my > Father which is in heaven. Sorry, but I see nothing there that says that Jesus tells us to "stay out of homosexuality". -- ****************************************************** * DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226 * *----------------------------------------------------* * "I distrust those people who know so well what God * * wants them to do because I notice it always * * coincides with their own desires." * * --Susan B. Anthony * ******************************************************
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