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Re: Does God need to prove He exists?

#12237
From: DanielSan
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 22:05
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rbwinn wrote:
> On Jul 20, 10:19 am, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote:
>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
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>> news:d56410cf-c39e-4de7-9b1a-51ae24806393@56g2000hsm.googlegroups.com...
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>>
>>
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>>> On Jul 20, 3:35 am, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>> On Jul 19, 8:49 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>> On Jul 19, 7:19 am, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Jul 18, 8:13 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 18, 4:06 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 6:47 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 5:43 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 5:26 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 16, 7:24 pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 12:09 am, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 15, 1:25�am, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:c6ff2090-3c5f-4de6-97bf-0641d818d2e2@l64g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When are you going to admit you're a satanist,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bobbie?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have never been involved in atheism.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Satanism is a faith.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is not a subset of atheism.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve O
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, atheism is a cult of people who say, We do not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> believe in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> following anything., who follow Satan around.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, Christian are those that say they follow a god of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> love, who in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fact follow one of the most evil deities of all history.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Al- Hide quoted text -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Exactly which teachings of Jesus Christ do you find to be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> evil?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, you think that Christians ONLY follow the teachings of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jesus? What,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for example, did Jesus say about homosexuality?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He said to repent from any sins. That would include
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> homosexuality.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Homosexuality isn't a sin.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, what did Jesus say about homosexuality?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jesus Christ said that repentance from any sin is necessary
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> before the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> person can enter heaven. That includes the sin of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> homosexuality.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But homosexuality is not a sin. Unless you can find where it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> says that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it is.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Homosexuality is a sin regardless of what I do. There is no one
>>>>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>>> earth who cannot tell that homosexuality is a sin.
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm on the Earth, and I have no problem with gay people. What
>>>>>>>>>>>> they do in
>>>>>>>>>>>> the privacy of their homes doesn't impact on me one iota. Why on
>>>>>>>>>>>> Earth
>>>>>>>>>>>> would I have a problem with homosexuals?- Hide quoted text -
>>>>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>>>>>>>>>> I did not say you had a problem. I said that you are able to tell
>>>>>>>>>>> that homosexuality is a sin. If you say you cannot tell it is a
>>>>>>>>>>> sin,
>>>>>>>>>>> you are not telling the truth.
>>>>>>>>>> I don't even subscribe to the concept of sin, so no I don't think
>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>> sinful. You may think it wrong, I don't. I can't think of any
>>>>>>>>>> reason I
>>>>>>>>>> would.- Hide quoted text -
>>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>>>>>>>> Well, you would not think of it as sin when your fellow atheist
>>>>>>>>> Josef
>>>>>>>>> Stalin killed 12 million people. He was just born that way like
>>>>>>>>> homosexuals are, right?
>>>>>>>> Immoral behaviour exists quite apart from "sin" outside your wacky
>>>>>>>> myths.
>>>>>>>> You will note that we're not all killing peasants left, right and
>>>>>>>> centre.- Hide quoted text -
>>>>>>> Homosexuality is immoral behavior. So is killing 12 million people.
>>>>>> Homosexuality is not immoral.
>>>>> Explain it to Jesus Christ. It does not have anything to do with me.
>>>> This is a neat trick.
>>>> Your religion has allowed you to disavow any responsibility for your
>>>> bigotry.
>>>> ...and because it's a religious opinion, it automatically gets more
>>>> respect than it deserves.
>>>> You can hold the vilest of opinions, and never have to back them up at
>>>> all.
>>>> Genius!- Hide quoted text -
>> That's how religion works.
>> It gives people excuses to behave atrociously, all in the name of God.
>> So immoral.
>>
>>
>>
>>> If you do not like it, complain to Jesus Christ.  He told us to stay
>>> out of homosexuality.
>>> Robert B. Winn
>> Please quote the part of the New Testament where he does that.
>> Or go back and read your bible properly.
>>
> Matthew 7:21`  Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall
> enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my
> Father which is in heaven.


Sorry, but I see nothing there that says that Jesus tells us to "stay 
out of homosexuality".

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*          DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226            *
*----------------------------------------------------*
* "I distrust those people who know so well what God *
*  wants them to do because I notice it always       *
*  coincides with their own desires."                *
*                                 --Susan B. Anthony *
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