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Re: Does God need to prove He exists?

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From: Free Lunch
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 17:15
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On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 10:09:57 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwinn3@juno.com>
wrote in alt.atheism:

>On Jul 20, 9:46?am, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
>> On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 09:07:30 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com>
>> wrote in alt.atheism:
>>
>> >On Jul 20, 7:16?am, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:

...

>> >> Where did Jesus say it was immoral?- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> >Matthew 5:19 ?Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least
>> >commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in
>> >the kingdom of heaven; but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same
>> >shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
>>
>> Of course Jesus is not saying it is immoral, is it. That's just a
>> catchall and you still have the problem of showing that Jesus thought it
>> was immoral.
>>
>> You'll need to tell us exactly which commandment this is that Jesus was
>> endorseing and why you ignore the other commandments that were
>> supposedly given at the same time. Why do you not keep the Sabbath? Why
>> don't you keep kosher? Why don't you follow the rules given for worship?
>> Why, in short, do you reject all of the rules of Judaism, but keep a
>> handful to abuse those you do not like? The gospels tell us that Jesus
>> certainly condemned that attitude.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
>As I pointed out before, the law of Christ has two commandments,  Love
>the Lord thy God, and Love thy neighbor as thyself.  The Law of Moses
>was given as a schoolmaster to the Israelites after they broke their
>covenant with God by worshipping a golden calf at Mount Sinai.  It was
>a law of carnal commandments which, by the time of Christ, was
>becoming ridiculous in its attention to detail and devotion to the
>letter of the law, much like atheists view religion today.
>This was the reason for further clarification given by Jesus Christ,
>The letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.

So, you're just trying to have it both ways. You want to discriminate
against gays so you blame Jesus for your bigotry. When I ask you about
why you don't follow the law that you are trying to invoke you make more
excuses and blame Jesus again.

Sorry, but Jesus had nothing to do with your behavior. You have chosen
to be a bigot. You have chosen to be intolerant. You have chosen to be a
liar. You have chosen to mock Jesus with your doctrines. You, and you
alone, are responsible for the lies you tell and the false doctrines you
preach. Don't blame Jesus, we atheists know enough of the Bible to know
you are lying to us. 
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From: Free Lunch <lunch@nofreelunch.us>
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Subject: Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
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