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Article #12254Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: rbwinn
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 17:14
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 17:14
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On Jul 20, 9:48 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > rbwinn wrote: > > On Jul 19, 10:50 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > >> rbwinn wrote: > >>> On Jul 19, 10:02 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > >>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>> On Jul 19, 12:06�pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote: > >>>>>> On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 12:02:23 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> > >>>>>> wrote in alt.atheism: > >>>>>>> On Jul 19, 8:49�am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > >>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>>>> On Jul 19, 7:19 am, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 18, 8:13 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 18, 4:06 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 6:47 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 5:43 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 5:26 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 16, 7:24 pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)" > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 12:09 am, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 15, 1:25?am, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>news:c6ff2090-3c5f-4de6-97bf-0641d818d2e2@l64g2000hse.googlegroups.com... > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When are you going to admit you're a satanist, bobbie? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have never been involved in atheism. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Satanism is a faith. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is not a subset of atheism. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve O > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, atheism is a cult of people who say, We do not believe in > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> following anything., who follow Satan around. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, Christian are those that say they follow a god of love, who in > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fact follow one of the most evil deities of all history. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Al- Hide quoted text - > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Exactly which teachings of Jesus Christ do you find to be evil? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, you think that Christians ONLY follow the teachings of Jesus? �What, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for example, did Jesus say about homosexuality? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He said to repent from any sins. �That would include homosexuality. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Homosexuality isn't a sin. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, what did Jesus say about homosexuality? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jesus Christ said that repentance from any sin is necessary before the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> person can enter heaven. �That includes the sin of homosexuality. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But homosexuality is not a sin. �Unless you can find where it says that > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it is. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Homosexuality is a sin regardless of what I do. �There is no one on > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> earth who cannot tell that homosexuality is a sin. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm on the Earth, and I have no problem with gay people. What they do in > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the privacy of their homes doesn't impact on me one iota. Why on Earth > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> would I have a problem with homosexuals?- Hide quoted text - > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text - > >>>>>>>>>>>>> I did not say you had a problem. �I said that you are able to tell > >>>>>>>>>>>>> that homosexuality is a sin. � If you say you cannot tell it is a sin, > >>>>>>>>>>>>> you are not telling the truth. > >>>>>>>>>>>> I don't even subscribe to the concept of sin, so no I don't think it > >>>>>>>>>>>> sinful. You may think it wrong, I don't. I can't think of any reason I > >>>>>>>>>>>> would.- Hide quoted text - > >>>>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text - > >>>>>>>>>>> Well, you would not think of it as sin when your fellow atheist Josef > >>>>>>>>>>> Stalin killed 12 million people. �He was just born that way like > >>>>>>>>>>> homosexuals are, right? > >>>>>>>>>> Immoral behaviour exists quite apart from "sin" outside your wacky myths. > >>>>>>>>>> You will note that we're not all killing peasants left, right and centre.- Hide quoted text - > >>>>>>>>> Homosexuality is immoral behavior. �So is killing 12 million people. > >>>>>>>> Homosexuality is not immoral. > >>>>>>> Explain it to Jesus Christ. �It does not have anything to do with me. > >>>>>> So you are now admitting that your earlier claim was dishonest and that > >>>>>> you do not have any evidence that it is immoral behavior. Maybe you can > >>>>>> learn.- Hide quoted text - > >>>>> Jesus Christ said it was immoral behavior. That makes it immoral > >>>>> behavior. > >>>> Where did he say it was immoral behavior? > >>> Romans 2:27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the > >>> woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working > >>> that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of > >>> their error which was meet. > >> Err, I think you might have that wrong. My Bible says that Romans 2:27 > >> says: > > >> "The one who is not circumcised physically and yet obeys the law will > >> condemn you who, even though you have the written code and circumcision, > >> are a lawbreaker." > > > Typographical error. Romans 1:27. > > Romans 1:18-31 are things that God did to man for idolatry. Check out > verse 26: > > "Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women > exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones." Yes, there are women who are homosexuals also, and women who engage in sexual perversions with men. > PS- Romans 1:27 doesn't mention homosexuality. Romans 1:27 is about homosexual activity between men. > PPS- Romans 1 was written by Paul, not Jesus. > > -- Paul was an apostle, and whatever he said comes under the instruction by Christ, Whether by my voice or the voice of my servants, it is the same. Robert B. Winn
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