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Re: Does God need to prove He exists?

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From: rbwinn
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 17:17
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On Jul 20, 9:50 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> rbwinn wrote:
> > On Jul 19, 10:52 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >> rbwinn wrote:
> >>> On Jul 19, 10:03 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>> On Jul 19, 12:16 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Jul 19, 8:43 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On Jul 19, 8:15 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 18, 11:52 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 18, 8:13 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 18, 4:06 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 6:47 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 5:43 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 5:26 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 16, 7:24 pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)"
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 12:09 am, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 15, 1:25�am, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>news:c6ff2090-3c5f-4de6-97bf-0641d818d2e2@l64g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When are you going to admit you're a satanist, bobbie?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have never been involved in atheism.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Satanism is a faith.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is not a subset of atheism.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve O
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, atheism is a cult of people who say, We do not believe in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> following anything., who follow Satan around.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, Christian are those that say they follow a god of love, who in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fact follow one of the most evil deities of all history.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Al- Hide quoted text -
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Exactly which teachings of Jesus Christ do you find to be evil?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, you think that Christians ONLY follow the teachings of Jesus?  What,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for example, did Jesus say about homosexuality?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He said to repent from any sins.  That would include homosexuality.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Homosexuality isn't a sin.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, what did Jesus say about homosexuality?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jesus Christ said that repentance from any sin is necessary before the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> person can enter heaven.  That includes the sin of homosexuality.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But homosexuality is not a sin.  Unless you can find where it says that
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it is.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Homosexuality is a sin regardless of what I do.  There is no one on
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> earth who cannot tell that homosexuality is a sin.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm on the Earth, and I have no problem with gay people. What they do in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the privacy of their homes doesn't impact on me one iota. Why on Earth
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would I have a problem with homosexuals?- Hide quoted text -
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I did not say you had a problem.  I said that you are able to tell
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that homosexuality is a sin.   If you say you cannot tell it is a sin,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you are not telling the truth.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't even subscribe to the concept of sin, so no I don't think it
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> sinful. You may think it wrong, I don't. I can't think of any reason I
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> would.- Hide quoted text -
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, you would not think of it as sin when your fellow atheist Josef
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Stalin killed 12 million people.  He was just born that way like
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> homosexuals are, right?
> >>>>>>>>>>>> You mean your fellow male Josef Stalin.  After all, if we're looking for
> >>>>>>>>>>>> irrelevant similarities....
> >>>>>>>>>>> No, I meant your fellow atheist.  Josef Stalin said he was not sinning
> >>>>>>>>>>> for the same reason you say you are not sinning.
> >>>>>>>>>> Cite?
> >>>>>>>>> Well, here we see an example of atheist reasoning.  All it takes to
> >>>>>>>>> turn Josef Stalin into a Christian is to make the accusation.
> >>>>>>>> Where did I say that?  Are you making things up again?
> >>>>>>> No, a couple of atheists have told me that.  They said he was a
> >>>>>>> Russian Orthodox and an alcoholic.
> >>>>>>> He was an alcoholic.
> >>>>>> So, you're making things up again.
> >>>>>> Hint: He was not a Christian merely because an atheist claimed he was...
> >>>>>> Hint #2:  What school did Stalin go to in 1888?
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>> Stalin went to a Russian Orthodox seminary.  He rejected what he was
> >>>>> taught there and became a mass murderer.
> >>>> So, he was a Christian.
> >>>> --
> >>> No, he was an atheist.  At that particular time, he could not have
> >>> become dictator of the Soviet Union if he had not been an atheist.
> >> And he was a Christian, too.
>
> > No, Stalin hated Christians as much as you do.
>
> BZZT!  I don't hate Christians.
>
Well, I think you do.
Robert B. Winn
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From: rbwinn <rbwinn3@juno.com>
Newsgroups: sci.physics,cam.misc,alt.sci.physics,alt.atheism
Subject: Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 10:17:12 -0700 (PDT)
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