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Re: Does God need to prove He exists?

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From: DanielSan
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 17:24
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rbwinn wrote:
> On Jul 20, 9:52 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>> rbwinn wrote:
>>> On Jul 19, 10:54 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>> On Jul 19, 10:12 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>> On Jul 19, 12:17 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Jul 19, 8:49 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 19, 7:19 am, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 18, 8:13 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 18, 4:06 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 6:47 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 5:43 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 5:26 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 16, 7:24 pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 12:09 am, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 15, 1:25�am, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:c6ff2090-3c5f-4de6-97bf-0641d818d2e2@l64g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When are you going to admit you're a satanist, bobbie?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have never been involved in atheism.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Satanism is a faith.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is not a subset of atheism.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve O
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, atheism is a cult of people who say, We do not believe in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> following anything., who follow Satan around.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, Christian are those that say they follow a god of love, who in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fact follow one of the most evil deities of all history.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Al- Hide quoted text -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Exactly which teachings of Jesus Christ do you find to be evil?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, you think that Christians ONLY follow the teachings of Jesus?  What,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for example, did Jesus say about homosexuality?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He said to repent from any sins.  That would include homosexuality.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Homosexuality isn't a sin.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, what did Jesus say about homosexuality?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jesus Christ said that repentance from any sin is necessary before the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> person can enter heaven.  That includes the sin of homosexuality.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But homosexuality is not a sin.  Unless you can find where it says that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it is.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Homosexuality is a sin regardless of what I do.  There is no one on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> earth who cannot tell that homosexuality is a sin.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm on the Earth, and I have no problem with gay people. What they do in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the privacy of their homes doesn't impact on me one iota. Why on Earth
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would I have a problem with homosexuals?- Hide quoted text -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I did not say you had a problem.  I said that you are able to tell
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that homosexuality is a sin.   If you say you cannot tell it is a sin,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you are not telling the truth.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't even subscribe to the concept of sin, so no I don't think it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sinful. You may think it wrong, I don't. I can't think of any reason I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would.- Hide quoted text -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, you would not think of it as sin when your fellow atheist Josef
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stalin killed 12 million people.  He was just born that way like
>>>>>>>>>>>>> homosexuals are, right?
>>>>>>>>>>>> Immoral behaviour exists quite apart from "sin" outside your wacky myths.
>>>>>>>>>>>> You will note that we're not all killing peasants left, right and centre.- Hide quoted text -
>>>>>>>>>>> Homosexuality is immoral behavior.  So is killing 12 million people.
>>>>>>>>>> Homosexuality is not immoral.
>>>>>>>>> Explain it to Jesus Christ.  It does not have anything to do with me.
>>>>>>>> I cannot.  Jesus, if he existed, died many centuries ago.
>>>>>>> Explain it to him when he returns to judge the earth.
>>>>>> There has never been any evidence of any person "returning" from being dead.
>>>>> Well, of course, you will be free to tell that to Jesus Christ when he
>>>>> returns the second time.
>>>> And what are you going to say when the Flying Spaghetti Monster comes to
>>>> your home and you're out of pasta sauce, hmm?
>>> There is no such entity.
>> Do you have any evidence that the Flying Spaghetti Monster does not exist?
>>
> The Flying Spaghetti Monster definitely does exist in the minds of
> atheists, just as Harry Potter does.  It is part of their religion,
> just as idols and graven images were part of the religions of
> heathens.

No, you aren't getting it, are you?  The FSM and Harry Potter do NOT 
exist in our minds.

Oh, and we don't have a religion, either.

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*          DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226            *
*----------------------------------------------------*
* "I distrust those people who know so well what God *
*  wants them to do because I notice it always       *
*  coincides with their own desires."                *
*                                 --Susan B. Anthony *
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