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rbwinn wrote:
> On Jul 20, 9:53 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>> rbwinn wrote:
>>> On Jul 19, 10:54 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>> On Jul 19, 10:12 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>> On Jul 18, 5:46�pm, "Smiler" <Smi...@Joe.King.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:de6a2c3f-ab55-434c-aa04-d37ddd084d82@26g2000hsk.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 1:08 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 4:11 am, The Loan Arranger <no...@nowhere.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 15, 6:39?am, The Loan Arranger <no...@nowhere.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 14, 10:38 pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So are you admitting that you have sins? ?This would be a first
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> atheist. ?All other atheists tell me that they do not have sins
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because whatever they do is not sin.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have what YOU call sins. They aren't, because the concept is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> meaningless. In absolute terms.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Right. ?Atheist Josef Stalin said the same thing when he killed 12
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> million people.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> As opposed to Adolf Hitler ("I am now as before a Catholic and will
>>>>>>>>>>>>> always remain so." - quoted in John Towland's biog).
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not to mention several Popes, who were happy to ordain the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> indiscriminate massacres of Moslems in the name of the Cross.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not to mention the Christian fundamentalist GWB (and his father), who
>>>>>>>>>>>>> seems happy to go to war against the people of any Moslem country
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>> has the audacity not to kow-tow to his government's wishes.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is no point in claiming that atheism breeds immorality, or that
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Christianity is the cure, because there are so many counter-examples
>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> both cases that the only conclusion any sensible person can draw is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>> some people are good, some people are bad, and anyone can be drawn to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>>>> away from religion.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> TLA
>>>>>>>>>>>> So was this John Towland an atheist?
>>>>>>>>>>> I have no idea, and it's not relevant anyway. He just wrote a biog of
>>>>>>>>>>> Hitler.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyway, Hitler was a politician saying what would make him popular
>>>>>>>>>>>> with the German people. His actions in his life show that he did not
>>>>>>>>>>>> believe he would be punished for sins, much like atheists of today.
>>>>>>>>>>> ...and any psychopath with temporal lobe epilepsy or schizophrenia who
>>>>>>>>>>> believes that massacring groups or whole races is OK, because they've
>>>>>>>>>>> God on their side. However, the point that you're trying to dodge, and
>>>>>>>>>>> failing, is that as much evil is done in the name of religion, in this
>>>>>>>>>>> case Christian religion, as is done by those with none - probably more.
>>>>>>>>>>> If you don't find that an uncomfortable truth, you need to recalibrate
>>>>>>>>>>> your humanity.
>>>>>>>>>>> TLA- Hide quoted text -
>>>>>>>>>> Well, I don't really see much evidence of it. Stalin and Pol Pot were
>>>>>>>>>> both atheists. But politicians who killed large numbers of people
>>>>>>>>>> cannot compare with the numbers of people killed by abortion, which
>>>>>>>>>> was done by governments controlled by atheistic political factions.
>>>>>>>>> Your vitriol against atheists is kinda cute in a psycho sort of way.
>>>>>>>>> Where do I sign up for the genocides? I need to do my atheistic duty. Is
>>>>>>>>> it the same place Mormons get their brains removed?- Hide quoted text -
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>>>>>>>> All you have to do is vote for your pro-abortion politicians.
>>>>>>>> ==========================================
>>>>>>>> There aren't any pro-abortion politicians.
>>>>>>>> Smiler,
>>>>>>>> The godless one
>>>>>>>> a.a.# 2279- Hide quoted text -
>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>>>>>> There aren't?  
>>>>>> No.
>>>>>>> What happened to them?
>>>>>> Nothing.  They just don't exist.
>>>>> Sort of like Hezekiah's tunnel?
>>>> No.
>>> I think it is.  So you are saying that Barack Obama and Hillary
>>> Clinton do not exist?
>> They're not pro-abortion.
>>
> So why do they say they are pro-abortion?

Cite?


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